AMD Q4: 16-core Ryzen 9 3950X, Threadripper Up To 32-Core 3970X, Coming November 25th
by Dr. Ian Cutress on November 7, 2019 9:00 AM ESTAMD Athlon 3000G: Aligning Names and Numbers at $49
The odd-one out from today’s announcement is a processor at the other end of the portfolio. To put it into context, if a user wants to jump on board the 7nm and Zen 2 bandwagon, the entry price point is $199 for the Ryzen 5 3600. Below that we have older hardware based on Zen 1, and AMD’s APU line of processors featuring integrated graphics. The new Athlon 3000G sits firmly in this category, and aims to be a very interesting processor indeed.
The Athlon 3000G is a 35W dual core Zen+ processor with 3 compute units of Vega graphics, built on 12nm and falls in the Picasso family of hardware. It doesn’t have any turbo, but does have a nominal frequency of 3.5 GHz on the CPU and 1100 MHz on the GPU. Supported memory speeds are DDR4-2933 and it can support up to 64 GB. It will come bundled with AMD’s 65W near-silent stock cooler, which is absolutely overkill for this product.
If a dual core Zen+ Picasso APU sounds familiar, it’s because AMD already has a processor that fits the bill: the AMD Athlon 300GE. Following previous convention, I would have expected AMD to call this new processor the 320GE, as it has +100 MHz more on the CPU. However, AMD are changing the naming for two reasons.
First, to align it more with the Ryzen family. With the Ryzen 3000 series starting with the Ryzen 3 3200G for the 65W Zen+ APUs, moving into the Ryzen 5 3600 for the 65 W desktop Zen 2 CPUs, each of these are four digits plus a letter. By moving to 3000G, it allows AMD to equate the two families together (even if there’s still an APU/desktop CPU microarchitecture mismatch).
| AMD AM4 APU List | ||||||
| AnandTech | Cores Threads |
Base Freq |
Turbo Freq |
Vega CUs |
TDP | Price |
| 12nm Zen+ - Picasso | ||||||
| Ryzen 5 3400G | 4 / 8 | 3700 | 4200 | 11 | 65 W | $149 |
| Ryzen 3 3200G | 4 / 4 | 3600 | 4000 | 8 | 65 W | $99 |
| Athlon 3000G | 2 / 4 | 3500 | - | 3 | 35 W | $49 |
| Athlon Pro 300GE | 2 / 4 | 3400 | - | 3 | 35 W | - |
| 14nm Zen - Raven Ridge | ||||||
| Ryzen 5 2400G | 4 / 8 | 3600 | 3900 | 11 | 65 W | $169 |
| Ryzen 5 2400GE | 4 / 8 | 3200 | 3800 | 11 | 35 W | - |
| Ryzen 3 2200G | 4 / 4 | 3500 | 3700 | 8 | 65 W | $99 |
| Ryzen 3 2200GE | 4 / 4 | 3200 | 3600 | 8 | 35 W | - |
| Athlon 240GE | 2 / 4 | 3500 | - | 3 | 35 W | $75 |
| Athlon 220GE | 2 / 4 | 3400 | - | 3 | 35 W | $65 |
| Athlon 200GE | 2 / 4 | 3200 | - | 3 | 35 W | $55 |
The other aspect is that the Athlon 3000G is also unlocked. AMD touts the 3000G as the first AM4 Athlon that is fully unlocked for overclocking, allowing users to adjust the CPU multiplier as high as their dreams desire (or to the limits of the silicon). As AMD is pairing the CPU with its 65W cooler, that means a lot of users, as long as the motherboard supports overclocking, should be able to push their CPU a bit higher. AMD stated that the +400 MHz in the slide deck for our briefing would represent a ‘typical’ overclock for an end-user, but then clarified they did use a high-end cooler to achieve that value. Nonetheless, an unlocked $49 chip with a cooler than can handle double the TDP could be exciting for users wanting to test their overclocking skills.
The other feather in AMD’s cap for this new chip is that it competes against Intel’s Celeron and Pentium desktop processors. Given the high demand for Intel's high-end 14nm products, the Pentium and Celeron parts have been available in relatively low in volumes as they don’t make as much money, especially when high-end demand is high. In that instance, AMD has the advantage as the company stated that there will be plenty of Athlon silicon to go around.
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M O B - Thursday, November 7, 2019 - link
Have you read any of the Zen3 reviews? AMD is much more power efficient than Intel. Period.zangheiv - Thursday, November 7, 2019 - link
Woah! hold your horses. Do you trust Intel marketing more? Intel TDP is at non-boosted clock. Boost all cores and exceed TDP and you're voiding warranty essentially.airdrifting - Thursday, November 7, 2019 - link
Why there are always idiots like you spreading false information without even owning the CPU or know the basics of current gen hardware? The boost is done automatically without you doing anything in BIOS, all Intel CPU essentially run boost speed right out of the box, so you are saying everyone voided their warranty for doing nothing at all?eddman - Friday, November 8, 2019 - link
Why do you keep insulting others? Turbo does not void any warranty. Boards are not supposed to boost beyond the intel specced clocks.However, there is a non-spec OEM implemented feature on some boards, usually called MCE (multi-core enhancement). This option would cause the board to boost all-core clocks to the single-core boost clock which does break the spec. Realistically, it shouldn't be enabled out-of-the-box but some board makers apparently don't care. Your beef should be with them, not intel.
Korguz - Friday, November 8, 2019 - link
eddman, why does he keep insulting others ?? cause he is a child, and when proven wrong, or cant prove what he says, this is his only recourse.. maybe it makes himself feel better...Alexvrb - Friday, November 8, 2019 - link
Intel's TDP is a useless figure. Given the nature of competition, AMD is going to increasingly follow suit with their own less-than-useful TDP. With that being said: As of today, Intel's high end chips eat far more power at stock settings, "base" TDP be damned.Lcs006 - Wednesday, November 13, 2019 - link
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Well let's just get this straight, Intel processors have to clock high just to match a lower clocked AMD processor. Ryzen 3000 series vs Intel 9000 series is proof of that.Second, you don't seem to realize that overclocking does not improve performance per watt. The gains yielded by OCing a 9900K for example to 5.1 GHz are around 3% while power consumption increase by 30%. Simple math tells me performance per watt decreases.
Let's be frank here, Intel is just barely hanging onto the best gaming CPU crown right now but in every other category they loose. It is not even remotely surprising if they loose in a battle of core count, which is what HEDT is, as AMD's architecture is designed to scale.
Korguz - Thursday, November 7, 2019 - link
evernessince imagine how much worse it would be for intel if ryzen 3000 matched intel's current clocks.....