AMD Q4: 16-core Ryzen 9 3950X, Threadripper Up To 32-Core 3970X, Coming November 25th
by Dr. Ian Cutress on November 7, 2019 9:00 AM ESTAMD Athlon 3000G: Aligning Names and Numbers at $49
The odd-one out from today’s announcement is a processor at the other end of the portfolio. To put it into context, if a user wants to jump on board the 7nm and Zen 2 bandwagon, the entry price point is $199 for the Ryzen 5 3600. Below that we have older hardware based on Zen 1, and AMD’s APU line of processors featuring integrated graphics. The new Athlon 3000G sits firmly in this category, and aims to be a very interesting processor indeed.
The Athlon 3000G is a 35W dual core Zen+ processor with 3 compute units of Vega graphics, built on 12nm and falls in the Picasso family of hardware. It doesn’t have any turbo, but does have a nominal frequency of 3.5 GHz on the CPU and 1100 MHz on the GPU. Supported memory speeds are DDR4-2933 and it can support up to 64 GB. It will come bundled with AMD’s 65W near-silent stock cooler, which is absolutely overkill for this product.
If a dual core Zen+ Picasso APU sounds familiar, it’s because AMD already has a processor that fits the bill: the AMD Athlon 300GE. Following previous convention, I would have expected AMD to call this new processor the 320GE, as it has +100 MHz more on the CPU. However, AMD are changing the naming for two reasons.
First, to align it more with the Ryzen family. With the Ryzen 3000 series starting with the Ryzen 3 3200G for the 65W Zen+ APUs, moving into the Ryzen 5 3600 for the 65 W desktop Zen 2 CPUs, each of these are four digits plus a letter. By moving to 3000G, it allows AMD to equate the two families together (even if there’s still an APU/desktop CPU microarchitecture mismatch).
| AMD AM4 APU List | ||||||
| AnandTech | Cores Threads |
Base Freq |
Turbo Freq |
Vega CUs |
TDP | Price |
| 12nm Zen+ - Picasso | ||||||
| Ryzen 5 3400G | 4 / 8 | 3700 | 4200 | 11 | 65 W | $149 |
| Ryzen 3 3200G | 4 / 4 | 3600 | 4000 | 8 | 65 W | $99 |
| Athlon 3000G | 2 / 4 | 3500 | - | 3 | 35 W | $49 |
| Athlon Pro 300GE | 2 / 4 | 3400 | - | 3 | 35 W | - |
| 14nm Zen - Raven Ridge | ||||||
| Ryzen 5 2400G | 4 / 8 | 3600 | 3900 | 11 | 65 W | $169 |
| Ryzen 5 2400GE | 4 / 8 | 3200 | 3800 | 11 | 35 W | - |
| Ryzen 3 2200G | 4 / 4 | 3500 | 3700 | 8 | 65 W | $99 |
| Ryzen 3 2200GE | 4 / 4 | 3200 | 3600 | 8 | 35 W | - |
| Athlon 240GE | 2 / 4 | 3500 | - | 3 | 35 W | $75 |
| Athlon 220GE | 2 / 4 | 3400 | - | 3 | 35 W | $65 |
| Athlon 200GE | 2 / 4 | 3200 | - | 3 | 35 W | $55 |
The other aspect is that the Athlon 3000G is also unlocked. AMD touts the 3000G as the first AM4 Athlon that is fully unlocked for overclocking, allowing users to adjust the CPU multiplier as high as their dreams desire (or to the limits of the silicon). As AMD is pairing the CPU with its 65W cooler, that means a lot of users, as long as the motherboard supports overclocking, should be able to push their CPU a bit higher. AMD stated that the +400 MHz in the slide deck for our briefing would represent a ‘typical’ overclock for an end-user, but then clarified they did use a high-end cooler to achieve that value. Nonetheless, an unlocked $49 chip with a cooler than can handle double the TDP could be exciting for users wanting to test their overclocking skills.
The other feather in AMD’s cap for this new chip is that it competes against Intel’s Celeron and Pentium desktop processors. Given the high demand for Intel's high-end 14nm products, the Pentium and Celeron parts have been available in relatively low in volumes as they don’t make as much money, especially when high-end demand is high. In that instance, AMD has the advantage as the company stated that there will be plenty of Athlon silicon to go around.
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Quantumz0d - Thursday, November 7, 2019 - link
First that TDP bullshit needs to go out of window from marketing when you are pushing for AIO OOTB.~175W vs 9900K 210W both can be handled by a same PSU plus a same chassis and a goddamn DH15. What is this whining and shiny bs of TDP in a Desktop, cTDP yuck. Having reduced performance is bullshit esp on such high core CPU machine this is not a BGA macbook pro soldered garbage we are talking about nor a BIOS chastitized Machine.
Now price, $600 over 3700X ? For a superbinned processor at $800ish ? Why such high price. Also their 3800X doesn't make any sense no one recommends it, GN also ingores it. Yeah AMD just wants to squeeze out all margins, one can understand that due to 7nm costs plus AMD state of CapEx vs Intel. Still their mediocrr perf Improvements over their multi SKU confusion is bad, not to forget the insane expensive X570 chipset on 12nm.
I was in market for this year and I wanted to wait for TR plus Z390 future. Its a shame Z390/9900Kx platform is dead for LGA 12xx now a big kick in nuts that even CPU is outdated. With AMD I was ready for $700 Xtreme purchase too, going to OCN and seeing GB boards having BIOS issues and all of AM4 playing hit and miss with their beta testing bullshit BIOS patches rolling is a hell, to make it worse the DRAM is hit with Speed stability plus overall vCore, Even Trident Z at fclk, mclk, uclk plus DRAM is a huge pain of trial and error just because to get proper perf forget OC and that PBO, XFR2 marketing BS. And Ryzen Master requirement.
Intel Z390 Dark was my choice for other now with dead platform on one side and unstable on one with useless Gen 4..For now, yeah maybe future its good but chipset fan again, all OCN shows high RPM for that.
TR4 again same chipset fan bs with insane price at $1500+ base on top AIO, Mega expensive mobos at over +600.. With zero backwards compatibility, AND once 2021 DDR5 hits it's dead. The $2000 CPU is gone outdated.
HEDT Intel won this time 7xxx to 10xxx and stable platform. Gen 3 x16 2080Ti wont max it out..and Mainstream AMD is better but still expensive and huge fragmentation lineup and unstable.
Will wait for Comet Lake and Zen 4000.
Quantumz0d - Thursday, November 7, 2019 - link
Higher Vcore & Higher DRAM voltage*Korguz - Thursday, November 7, 2019 - link
Quantumz0d, wait.. you are calling AMD expensive ?? have you not seen, or remember the prices intel was charging for its cpus before Zen ?? how the fact that going from 9xxx series to 10xxx saw what some might call massive price drops ?? the top chip for 10xxx is 1k less then the 9xxx chips.Death666Angel - Thursday, November 7, 2019 - link
Anandtech really need an ignore feature in the comments.Spunjji - Friday, November 8, 2019 - link
I'd not be seeing fully 50% of them by now. It would be nice.Slash3 - Saturday, November 9, 2019 - link
Very much so.Total Meltdowner - Thursday, November 7, 2019 - link
Its still 2019.DDR5 is easily almost 1.5-2 years away for average consumer.
TR3 looks like a very solid platform for many HEDT users at a very respectable price.
I think you're overreacting.
I have a 1800x. I was going to buy the 3950x but if the perf isnt that much better I may just get the 3700x and keep everything else the same in the computer.
Waiting for ryzen 4k may be a good idea for you but man that's a long wait.
Spunjji - Friday, November 8, 2019 - link
This reads suspiciously like someone trying - at length - to post-hoc rationalize their pre-existing decision not to buy any AMD products. You don't need to justify that irrational desire to anyone else; just go with it! The attempt to do so ends up making you look more biased because you had to pick feeble, irrelevant and/or hypocritical reasons.Sychonut - Thursday, November 7, 2019 - link
Eagerly looking forward to Intel's 14+++++++.PixyMisa - Thursday, November 7, 2019 - link
So the TRX40 is basically a fully-enabled X570? (That is, a Ryzen 3000 I/O die.)