The answer to your question can be found on this site. The short answer is: yes. The long answer is: some tasks benefit from more memory bandwidth, but only if they're bound by that limitation in the first place. They're the sort of tasks you'd only do on a HEDT platform in the first place.
Nice write up! It's interesting to watch Intel drop further and further behind. 2020 should be a blowout year for AMD. Surprising that anyone is still buying Intel's old, massively security-hole-punched architectures, made on the old 14nm process, to boot. Processing performance, not MHz, has been the name-of-the-game since 1999. Hard to believe that in 2019 there are people who still don't understand what that means...;) I always thought it was rather elementary.
Umm, considering holes was fixed, and 14nm process means nothing to end users they are doing good. Intel is still a great CPU, it makes sense for lots of people. Upgrade path to AMD is not exactly cheap if you already have intel cpu..you got to get new mobo/ram as added cost to going amd.
Mhz is still king for flat game performance as well.
Sounds like you are just a uninformed on how things actually work in the real world.
" Mhz is still king for flat game performance as well. " not really.. ipc is also just as important.and right now, clock for clock, amd wins there. for the most part, ryzen is pretty close to intel even with the clock speed disadvantage... imagine if ryzen were at the same clocks as intel...
Yup because we should all cpu buying decisions based on what cpu offers an extra frame or two when most games on almost all mod tier cpus can do 75 to 100fps.
14nm is ancient and Intel is milking it thanks to fangirls who were happily buying dual core i7s on mobile until AMD came in and kicked them in the rear and finally made 6 core cpus the new low tier norm.
Don't be harsh... according to them, human eyes can only see 4 cores & PC is for gaming only. All Those multi-billions $ games apparently developed exclusively on i7 procs
"Umm, considering holes was fixed," -- are you sure? To me it looks like Intel still sell more CPUs with holes not fixed (in silicon) than those fixed. Honestly Intel message about this is all big mess...
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Total Meltdowner - Thursday, November 7, 2019 - link
I've done it like twice. That's pretty good, though. May do it again here with the 3700x if the price drops a bit. Will replace my 1800x.proflogic - Thursday, November 7, 2019 - link
That moving line for HEDT is kind of lame. Now it costs even more to get more memory channels and/or PCIe lanes.Are core counts increasing to nonsense levels on AM4? Can they even be served well with the amount of I/O and memory throughput available to them?
Spunjji - Friday, November 8, 2019 - link
Not really. A little more, but not a lot more.The answer to your question can be found on this site. The short answer is: yes.
The long answer is: some tasks benefit from more memory bandwidth, but only if they're bound by that limitation in the first place. They're the sort of tasks you'd only do on a HEDT platform in the first place.
WaltC - Thursday, November 7, 2019 - link
Nice write up! It's interesting to watch Intel drop further and further behind. 2020 should be a blowout year for AMD. Surprising that anyone is still buying Intel's old, massively security-hole-punched architectures, made on the old 14nm process, to boot. Processing performance, not MHz, has been the name-of-the-game since 1999. Hard to believe that in 2019 there are people who still don't understand what that means...;) I always thought it was rather elementary.imaheadcase - Thursday, November 7, 2019 - link
Umm, considering holes was fixed, and 14nm process means nothing to end users they are doing good. Intel is still a great CPU, it makes sense for lots of people. Upgrade path to AMD is not exactly cheap if you already have intel cpu..you got to get new mobo/ram as added cost to going amd.Mhz is still king for flat game performance as well.
Sounds like you are just a uninformed on how things actually work in the real world.
Korguz - Thursday, November 7, 2019 - link
" Mhz is still king for flat game performance as well. " not really.. ipc is also just as important.and right now, clock for clock, amd wins there. for the most part, ryzen is pretty close to intel even with the clock speed disadvantage... imagine if ryzen were at the same clocks as intel...milkywayer - Thursday, November 7, 2019 - link
Yup because we should all cpu buying decisions based on what cpu offers an extra frame or two when most games on almost all mod tier cpus can do 75 to 100fps.14nm is ancient and Intel is milking it thanks to fangirls who were happily buying dual core i7s on mobile until AMD came in and kicked them in the rear and finally made 6 core cpus the new low tier norm.
Count Rushmore - Thursday, November 7, 2019 - link
Don't be harsh... according to them, human eyes can only see 4 cores & PC is for gaming only. All Those multi-billions $ games apparently developed exclusively on i7 procskgardas - Thursday, November 7, 2019 - link
"Umm, considering holes was fixed," -- are you sure? To me it looks like Intel still sell more CPUs with holes not fixed (in silicon) than those fixed. Honestly Intel message about this is all big mess...haukionkannel - Friday, November 8, 2019 - link
It is all about pricing! Intel has huge r&d and their cpus Are really good, if the price is ok!