Frequency Analysis: Cutting Back on AVX2 vs Kaby Lake

Analyzing a new CPU family as a mobile chip is relatively difficult. Here we have a platform that is very much hamstrung by its thermal settings and limitations. Not only that, the BIOS adjustments available for mobile platforms are woeful in comparison to what we can test on desktop. This applies to the Intel NUC that came to retail in December as well as the Lenovo Ideapad E330-15ICN that we have for testing.

The issue is that for a 15W processor, even when built in a ’35 W’ capable environment, might still hit thermal limits depending on the configuration. We’ve covered why Intel’s TDP often bares little relation to power consumption, and it comes down to the different power levels that a system defines. It can also depend a lot on how the chip performs – most processors have a range of valid voltage/power curves which are suitable for that level of performance, and users could by chance either get a really good chip that stays cool, or a bad chip that rides the thermal limits. Ideally we would have all comparison chips in a desktop-like environment, such as when we tested the ‘Customer Reference Board’ version of Broadwell, which came in a desktop-like design. Instead, we have to attach as big of a cooling system as we can, along with extra fans, just in case. Otherwise potential variations can affect performance.

For our testing, we chose Intel’s Core i3-8130U mobile processor as the nearest competition. This is a Kaby Lake dual core processor, which despite the higher number in its name is using the older 14nm process and older Kaby Lake microarchitecture. This processor is a 15W part, like our Cannon Lake Core i3-8121U, with the same base frequency, but with a slightly higher turbo frequency. Ultimately this means that this older 14nm processor, on paper, should be more efficient than Intel’s latest 10nm process. Add on to this, the Core i3-8130U has active integrated graphics, while the Cannon Lake CPU does not.

Because both CPUs have turbo modes, it’s important to characterize the frequencies during testing. Here are the specifications and turbo tables for each processor:

Comparing Cannon Lake to Kaby Lake
10m Cannon Lake
Core i3-8121U
AnandTech 14nm Kaby Lake
Core i3-8130U
2 / 4 Cores / Threads 2 / 4
15 W Rated TDP 15 W
2.2 GHz Base Frequency 2.2 GHz
3.2 GHz Single Core Turbo 3.4 GHz
3.1 GHz Dual Core Turbo 3.4 GHz
2.2 GHz AVX2 Frequency 2.8 GHz
1.8 GHz AVX512 Frequency -

The Cannon Lake processor loses frequency as the cores are loaded, and severely loses frequency when AVX2/AVX512 is applied based on our testing. Comparing that to the Kaby Lake on Intel’s mature 14nm node, it keeps its turbo and only loses a few hundred MHz with AVX2. This part does not have AVX512, which is a one up for the Cannon Lake.

The biggest discrepancy we observed for AVX2 was in our POV-Ray test.

Here the Kaby Lake processor sustains a much higher AVX2 frequency, and completes the test quicker for a 26% better performance. This doesn’t affect every test as we’ll see in the next few pages, and for AVX-512 capable tests, the Cannon Lake goes above and beyond, despite the low AVX-512 frequency. For example, at 2.2 GHz, the Kaby Lake chip scores 615 in our 3DPM test in AVX2 mode, whereas the Cannon Lake chip scores 3846 in AVX512 mode, over 6x higher.

The system we are using for the Core i3-8130 is ASUS’ PN60 Mini-PC. This device is an ultra-compact mini-PC that measures 11.5mm square and under 5cm tall. It is just big enough for me to install our standard Crucial MX200 1TB SSD and 2x4GB of G.Skill DDR4-2400 SO-DIMMs.

For the Cannon Lake based Lenovo Ideapad 330-15ICN, we removed the low-end SSD and HDD that was shipped with the design and put in our own Crucial MX200 1TB and 2x4 GB DDR4 SO-DIMMs for testing. Unfortunately we can’t probe the exact frequency the memory seems to be running at, nor the sub-timings, because of the nature of the system. However the default SPD of the modules is DDR4-2400 17-17-17.

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  • danwat1234 - Friday, January 25, 2019 - link

    Intel ice Lake for performance laptops should be out by 2019 christmas. Then we will see if there are any IPC improvements in this new architecture. Probably not much...
  • BigMamaInHouse - Saturday, January 26, 2019 - link

    I think that Intel need 10nm for Data-centers for higher core count and profit, and their production focus will be on this area and not consumer desktop PC's.
    I don't see 9700K/9900K 10nm competitor until 2020.
  • Santoval - Monday, January 28, 2019 - link

    Sunny Cove and Willow Cove are intermediate designs until the release of Ocean Cove, the "brand new" CPU architecture Jim Keller was hired to lead the design of. Since Ocean Cove has not yet appeared in Intel's schedule it either means that it will not be ready before at least 2022 or Intel is just being secretive.

    Or it might just be Golden Cove. Since Golden Cove will apparently be Intel's next new design, if the it is not actually Ocean Cove, then Ocean Cove will not be released until 2023 at the earliest (at 7nm). That's because Intel has never released two new designs one after the other without an optimization in-between. It's also possible that Intel will just "pull a Skylake" and rather than use a new design for Golden Cove they will just.. re-optimize it. In that case Ocean Cove should be released in 2022, right after Golden Cove.
  • Trevor08 - Friday, February 1, 2019 - link

    For intel's sake (and ours), I hope they're working furiously on quantum CPU's.
  • peevee - Monday, February 4, 2019 - link

    So far, quantum is looking like a dead end. Maybe for specialized coprocessors in cryo environments in 10 years, but not for general-purpose computing AT ALL.

    There are much better, actually realistic directions for general-purpose computing on non-Von Neumann architectures, and that is where the future lies now that Moore's law is firmly dead and buried.
  • HStewart - Saturday, January 26, 2019 - link

    There is not release information about desktops on Ice Lake. But I would not doubt that Ice Lake on desktop at that time. It going to be fun to compare new laptops and even desktops at that time.

    But keep in minor to Intel desktop market is a minor market and once performance is up, I would not doubt we will not see any difference in desktop vs mobile chips
  • Santoval - Monday, January 28, 2019 - link

    We don't know how well Ice Lake / Sunny Cove will perform, but no matter how good it performs AMD will still have a market lead of 6 to 7 months (assuming a release of Zen 2 based Ryzen CPUs in May or June and an Intel HVM release of Sunny Cove in December).
    This assumes that Intel does not screw up again and moves back the launch of Sunny Cove into 2H 2020, which would be frankly catastrophic, at least for their client wing. Their 14nm process has been milked dry, they can no longer extract any more performance from it.
  • James5mith - Friday, January 25, 2019 - link

    "This is an M.2 module, which means it could be upgraded at a later date fairly easily."

    No, you can't. Lenovo only lets wifi/bluetooth cards with their custom firmware in their systems. If you boot the system with a standard (say Intel) wifi card, it refuses to boot.

    That's the reason I stopped buying lenovo laptops despite liking their build and design.
  • jeremyshaw - Friday, January 25, 2019 - link

    They've stopped doing that since about ~2 years ago.
  • levizx - Saturday, January 26, 2019 - link

    Welcome to 2015.

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