The Intel SSD 660p SSD Review: QLC NAND Arrives For Consumer SSDs
by Billy Tallis on August 7, 2018 11:00 AM ESTAnandTech Storage Bench - The Destroyer
The Destroyer is an extremely long test replicating the access patterns of very IO-intensive desktop usage. A detailed breakdown can be found in this article. Like real-world usage, the drives do get the occasional break that allows for some background garbage collection and flushing caches, but those idle times are limited to 25ms so that it doesn't take all week to run the test. These AnandTech Storage Bench (ATSB) tests do not involve running the actual applications that generated the workloads, so the scores are relatively insensitive to changes in CPU performance and RAM from our new testbed, but the jump to a newer version of Windows and the newer storage drivers can have an impact.
We quantify performance on this test by reporting the drive's average data throughput, the average latency of the I/O operations, and the total energy used by the drive over the course of the test.
The Intel SSD 660p manages an average data rate on The Destroyer that is only slightly slower than the Crucial MX500 mainstream SATA SSD and the Kingston A1000 entry-level NVMe SSD. It's a step up from the performance of the 512GB Intel SSD 600p, and more than three times faster than the DRAMless Toshiba RC100.
The average and 99th percentile latency scores for the Intel SSD 660p are quite poor by NVMe standards and significantly worse than the Crucial MX500, but the latency isn't completely out of control like it is for the Toshiba RC100.
The average read latency from the 660p during The Destroyer is comparable to other low-end NVMe SSDs and better than the 600p or Crucial MX500. The average write latency is more than twice that of the MX500 but lower than the 600p and RC100.
The 99th percentile read latency from the Intel SSD 660p on The Destroyer is significantly worse than any other NVMe SSD or the Crucial MX500 SATA SSD, but the 99th percentile write latency is an improvement over the 600p and does not show the extreme outliers that the Toshiba RC100 suffers from.
The energy usage of the 660p during The Destroyer is a bit better than average for NVMe SSDs, though still quite a bit higher than is typical for SATA SSDs. The 660p is less power hungry than most NVMe drives and slower, but not enough to drag out the test for so long that the power advantage disappears.
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woggs - Tuesday, August 7, 2018 - link
2D nand was abandoned because it squeezed the storage element down to a size where it became infeasible to scale further and still store data reliably. The move to 3D nand took back the needed size of the memory element to store more charge. Cost reduction from scaling is no longer reliant directly on the reduction of the storage element. This is a key enabler for TLC and QLC.woggs - Tuesday, August 7, 2018 - link
Stated another way... Scaling 2D flash cells proportionally reduced the stored charge available to divide up into multiple levels, making any number of bits per cell proportionally more difficult. The the question of cost reduction was which is faster and cheaper: scale the cell to smaller size or deliver more bits/cell? 2 bits per cell was achievable fast enough to justify it's use for cost reduction in parallel with process scaling, which was taking 18 to 24 months a pop. TLC was achievable on 2D nodes (not the final ones) but not before the next process node would be available. 3D has completely changed the scaling game and makes more bits per cell feasible, with less degradation in the ability to deliver as the process scales. The early 3D nodes "weren't very good" because they were the first 3D nodes going through the new learning curve.PeachNCream - Tuesday, August 7, 2018 - link
Interesting performance measurements. Variable size pseudo-SLC really helps to cover up the QLC performance penalties which look pretty scary when the drive is mostly full. The .1 DWPD rating is bad, but typical consumers aren't likely to thrash a drive with that many writes on a daily basis though Anandtech's weighty benchmarks ate up 1% of the total rated endurance in what is a comparable blink of an eye in the overall life of a storage device.In the end, I don't think there's a value proposition in owning such the 660p in specific if you're compelled to leave a substantial chunk of the drive in an empty state so the performance doesn't rapidly decline. In effect, the buyer is purchasing more capacity than required to retain performance so why not just purchase a TLC or MLC drive and suffer less performance loss and therefore gain more usable space?
Oxford Guy - Tuesday, August 7, 2018 - link
The 840's TLC degraded performance because of falling voltages, not because of anyone "thrashing" the drive.However, it is also true that the performance of the 120 GB drive was appalling in steady state.
mapesdhs - Wednesday, August 8, 2018 - link
Again, 840 EVO; few sites covered the standard 840, there's not much data. I think it does suffer from the same issue, but most media coverage was about the EVO version.Spunjji - Wednesday, August 8, 2018 - link
It does suffer from the same problem. It wasn't fixed. Not sure why Oxford *keeps* bringing it up in response to unrelated comments, though.Oxford Guy - Friday, August 10, 2018 - link
The point is that there is more to SSD reliability than endurance ratings.Oxford Guy - Friday, August 10, 2018 - link
"few sites covered the standard 840"The 840 got a lot of hype and sales.
FunBunny2 - Tuesday, August 7, 2018 - link
with regard to power-off retention: is a stat estimation from existing USB sticks (on whatever node) and such, meaningful? whether or not, what might be the prediction?milkywayer - Tuesday, August 7, 2018 - link
My question is, should I truest this drive with valuable info if endurance can be an issue?If the PC is frequently powered On, will it refresh the cells?