A Budget Home Theater & PC Setup: 4K, HDR, UHD Blu-ray, and More

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• Galid - Sunday, December 31, 2017 - link

  I would really much like to listen to your setup, sincerely. I know I would be in awe, never said what you put up on the internet is pure crap, all I wanted to hear from you is that there's stuff out there even if it's overpriced, includes DRM, seems like pure mockery that can still be liked by someone even if it seems impossible to you.
  
  But you are such a supreme being with no space around it for tolerance of imperfections in the current world

• Bullwinkle-J-Moose - Sunday, December 31, 2017 - link

  "Sennheiser HD-800 and Hifiman HE-560 running into a burson conductor SL1793 and I know how a recording should sound. My stereo setup consist of Rega Elex-R and ATC SCM 19 v2."
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  You poor guy
  You've never actually heard a great set of speakers
  Even your headphones begin combing over 10Khz with a sine sweep
  
  My Speakers have zero combing or image shifting at any usable frequency
  
  Image is stable at ALL usable frequencies! and the sweet spot covers the entire room unlike your ATC SCM 19 v2
  
  Phase coherent hybrid crossovers and full omni-directional imaging would probably scare the crap out of your after being stuck with your Low End setup for so long
  
  You have my sympathy

• Galid - Sunday, December 31, 2017 - link

  Well happy to you if you got the most neutral stereo system in the world, never said mine was perfect but it's still good enough to know how a record should sound even if it still has coloration. I was already informed about the bump in frequency on my headphones, the frequency graphs came with the headphones.
  
  Who do you freaking think you are, I just said I've seen people liking lower end system than higher end ones. What you want in the end, it is not nature with it's imperfection, you want the perfection humans have created, you wanna hear mathematics perfectly aligned, let's kill all those unbalanced beings and create a planet where everything is robotized, controlled, calculated.
  
  I like imperfections and you seem to believe no one should, I never said you can'T like what you do. I'm trying to have you understand someone else might very much like what you find disgusting. You have yet to understand that.

• Galid - Sunday, December 31, 2017 - link

  ''You've never actually heard a great set of speakers''
  
  How condescending you can be, I went to many audio shows including Montreal audio fest, again I guess every set of speakers there was really bad, everything is to you yet you recommend stuff like JBL powered speakers which by the way must sound uber crappy. I'm not trying to win a contest here, you already won the internet sir. You own the very best the planet has to offer and yet you can'T accept people can like stuff even if there's better out there.

• Galid - Sunday, December 31, 2017 - link

  My crap low end system, let's then not consider 99.9% of speakers ever produced amplifiers and so on because they're all crappy colored and unworthy.
  
  Those JBL speakers you recommended are crap btw you just said it. No one can like them. That behringer 2496 can't be loved either, it's crap by your standards because you own better, everything below what you own is crap and then should not even be discussed on the internet.
  
  I never tried to show you I own better than you, I just wanted you to aknowledge someone might like what you dislike, audio is not science, it goes through someone's ear and then is interpreted by their ears. A neutral sound set of speakers will make some recordings unlistenable. If those records are 90% of what they listen to, they will hate your super neutral sound system.

• Galid - Sunday, December 31, 2017 - link

  Forgive them for they know not what they do.
  
  I'm sorry, I forgive you, let's hope you will be able to do so with me.

• we - Monday, January 1, 2018 - link

  "My Speakers have zero combing or image shifting at any usable frequency"
  
  You are talking about the JBL LSR305? Even if that were true (which I doubt), there are many many other significant aspects of loudspeaker design. Some simply cannot be properly addressed at the price point of the LSR305. For example, it can be assumed that the drivers of the ATC SCM 19 v2 will have significantly better distortion / linearity specifications that the cheap drivers in the JBLs. And although powered speaker can be very good, I wonder to what extent JBL addressed vibrational effects on the internal amps and crosover considering the available budget (All amps and even crossovers are microphonic to an extent). So much more could be said.
  I have heard neither the JBLs nor the ATCs, but logic dictates that if the JBLs are even remotely comparable to the ATC in sound quality, then JBL truly pulled off a miracle!

• Bullwinkle-J-Moose - Tuesday, January 2, 2018 - link

  "You are talking about the JBL LSR305? Even if that were true (which I doubt), there are many many other significant aspects of loudspeaker design. Some simply cannot be properly addressed at the price point of the LSR305."
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  Oh HELL NO!
  I am definitely NOT talking about the "BUDGET" JBL LSR305 Home Theater setup
  
  I was referring to the 3-channel "Reference Standard" speakers I created over 30 years ago
  
  Additive/Subtractive frequency interference is easy enough to eliminate with a 3-channel system when done right, but cannot be eliminated in a 2 channel stereo system regardless of cost
  
  You will get ALWAYS get combing whenever you send the same signal to 2 or more speakers simultaneously
  
  Even the most expensive dynamic headphones exhibit image shifting at higher frequencies
  
  It is much less noticeable with planar magnetics, but still there
  
  You can easily test this combing effect by runnin a mono sine sweep into your headphones at a low level to protect your hearing
  
  The sweep (Starting at the bass end) will remain dead center of your headphones until it reaches a certain frequency which could be 6-8 Khz on pure crap headphones / 8-12Khz on most midrange headphones and above 12Khz on the best available headphones
  
  Ideally, you do not want the stereo image to shift left or right as frequency changes as the stereo image wanders and muddies up the acoustical image you are trying to create

• rapster - Sunday, December 31, 2017 - link

  Hahahaha! Someone skipped a dose?

• FreckledTrout - Sunday, December 31, 2017 - link

  @ddriver, this is very low end for me, so I have no issue with it being called budget. The Jamo sub is utter crap probably not even worth $100 if sold alone. If this build had say a SVS PB-1000 as the sub I might be onboard on the sound side. The in ceiling speakers are at least middle of the road. The other tips were nice but as far as the speakers go it couldn't be any more low end. I ahve the Denon AVR x3300 the prior year version of the one here and it is a lovely receiver mostly because of the Audyssey xt32.