Integrated Graphics Tests

Finding 60+ FPS

Never mind 30 frames per second, if we want gaming to be smooth, we look for true 60 FPS gaming. It's going to be a benchmark for any integrated graphics solution, but one question is if games are getting more difficult to render faster than integrated graphics is improving. Given how we used to talk about 30-40 FPS on integrated graphics before Ryzen, it stands to reason that the base requirements of games is only ever getting worse. To meet that need, we need processors with a good level of integrated oomph.

So here are a series of our tests that meet that mark. Unfortunately most of them are 720p Low (or worse).

A full list of results at various resolutions and settings can be found in our Benchmark Database.

IGP Gears Tactics 720p Low (Average FPS)IGP Grand Theft Auto 5 720p Low (Average FPS)

IGP Final Fantasy 14 768p Min (Average FPS)

IGP Strange Brigade 720p Low (Average FPS)

IGP Far Cry 5 360p Low (Average FPS)IGP Borderlands 3 360p VLow (Average FPS)

IGP Deus Ex: MD 600p Min (Average FPS)

IGP World of Tanks 768p Min (Average FPS)

IGP Counter Strike Source 1080p High (Average FPS)

IGP Counter Strike Source 4K High (Average FPS)

These last couple of games here, World of Tanks and CS:Source are getting on in age a bit. Playing at 1080p High/Max on both is easily done, but we cranked Source up to 4K and we're not even getting 60 frames per second. The previous generation R7 even beat out the new APUs here, probably indicating that the previous generation had more power going into the GPU and the new models are balanced towards the CPU cores a bit more. It works in some games clearly, and 1080p resolutions, but not here at 4K. 

 

 

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  • DanNeely - Wednesday, August 4, 2021 - link

    "What makes these ones different this time around is that Intel is cutting the Ryzen 3 from retail,"

    AND here, not Intel.
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  • dwillmore - Wednesday, August 4, 2021 - link

    And they use Zen3 *processors*, not graphics. Reply
  • Rudde - Wednesday, August 4, 2021 - link

    “As it stands, these two new processors at retail fill out Intel’s retail offerings, at least down to $259.”
    Again, it is AMD's retail offerings.
    Reply
  • at_clucks - Wednesday, August 4, 2021 - link

    Intel features prominently at the forefront of Ian's conscious mind. :) Reply
  • abufrejoval - Wednesday, August 4, 2021 - link

    I thought that was pretty funny, but after so many years of reviewing CPUs perhaps it does become a bit tiresome.

    This chips would have made a huge wave two years ago and still received raving reviews a year ago.

    Today it's still excellent, but no longer that exciting.

    Good value, through.
    Reply
  • nandnandnand - Wednesday, August 4, 2021 - link

    Vega is showing its age. We all know the next big APU is Rembrandt with RDNA 2 graphics. After that, maybe Strix Point (rumored big/little). Reply
  • vlad42 - Thursday, August 5, 2021 - link

    Rembrandt will most likely use RDNA1 as AMD just recently submitted drivers to the Linux kernel for a new RDNA1 based APU. It is unlikely they are planning to release another APU given we have not heard any rumors to that effect. Though I would love to be wrong! Reply
  • nandnandnand - Thursday, August 5, 2021 - link

    No, it will use RDNA 2, just like Van Gogh (Steam Deck). That RDNA 1 APU is probably some embedded part. Reply
  • vlad42 - Thursday, August 5, 2021 - link

    I have seen no indication of such a part from the roadmaps AMD has presented in the shareholder meetings. Every official roadmap has shown Van Gogh, Rembrandt and if I remember correctly, some other iteration of Renoir/Lucienne. Given that every previous embedded chip has just been a variation of the laptop/desktop SKUs, it is highly unlikely they would hide the existence of a new dedicated embedded chip from investors (they can get sued over that!).

    I guess it could be a semicustom part where the customer wants open source Linux drivers?

    Remember how all the late stage rumors claimed Renoir and then Cezanne would use RDNA1, while the early rumors for both claimed Vega? New rumors that pop up in the months leading up to a new chip launch claiming radical technology changes from previous rumors, such as a change in GPU architecture, are normally wrong/bogus.

    It seems more realistic to temper expectations and assume Rembrandt will use RDNA1 given the driver submission, fact that all early rumors suggested so, and that it is the only other APU we know of that is releasing in the near future.
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  • vlad42 - Thursday, August 5, 2021 - link

    Just saw your post down below. I must have missed that Yellow Carp was for an APU as well. For some reason, I thought it was for the entry level discrete market.

    Maybe I missed that there is a new embedded market chip (it's not like they get much news coverage) or it is a semicustom part like I suggested above. It seems too early for Yellow Carp to be for the Zen4 based APUs unless they are coming sooner than we think or AMD is starting to upstream driver work earlier.
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