Integrated Graphics Tests

Is 1080p Max possible?

My goal for integrated graphics is for it to be suitable one day for 60 FPS gaming at 1080p maximum settings. At these settings, we're asking a lot of the graphics solution to do lots of compute, sometimes with memory bandwidth that just isn't there. A normal suite does a few of these 1080p Max tests, and the results are almost always dismal:

The short answer is no. You're lucky to break 10 or 20 FPS in most cases.

eSports are the obvious differentiation point, with CS:Source (an old favorite, don't @ me with CS:Go) showcasing almost 60 FPS at 4K High.

IGP Counter Strike Source 1080p High (Average FPS)

Note that on this 1080p High graph, it is interesting to see the frame rates increase over several generations of AMD Ryzen APUs, increasing 33% in frame rate from the first generation Ryzen 5 2400G.

IGP Counter Strike Source 4K High (Average FPS)

The 4K variation shows the previous generation coming out ahead, and this was fairly consistent. This might be a case of where the power is going between CPU and GPU and the algorithm that determines where the workload should be.

IGP Far Cry 5 1080p Ultra (Average FPS)IGP Borderlands 3 1080p Max (Average FPS)

Sometime we get odd scenarios such as this, when the previous generation gets slightly better results. Each result has some level of uncertainty, but even at this value, the're pretty much both unplayable.

IGP Final Fantasy 14 1080p Max (Average FPS)IGP Deus Ex:MD 1080p Max (Average FPS)

A full list of results at various resolutions and settings can be found in our Benchmark Database.

Integrated Graphics Tests: Finding 60 FPS Conclusions: A Great Alternative to Regular Ryzen
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  • DanNeely - Wednesday, August 4, 2021 - link

    "What makes these ones different this time around is that Intel is cutting the Ryzen 3 from retail,"

    AND here, not Intel.
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  • dwillmore - Wednesday, August 4, 2021 - link

    And they use Zen3 *processors*, not graphics. Reply
  • Rudde - Wednesday, August 4, 2021 - link

    “As it stands, these two new processors at retail fill out Intel’s retail offerings, at least down to $259.”
    Again, it is AMD's retail offerings.
    Reply
  • at_clucks - Wednesday, August 4, 2021 - link

    Intel features prominently at the forefront of Ian's conscious mind. :) Reply
  • abufrejoval - Wednesday, August 4, 2021 - link

    I thought that was pretty funny, but after so many years of reviewing CPUs perhaps it does become a bit tiresome.

    This chips would have made a huge wave two years ago and still received raving reviews a year ago.

    Today it's still excellent, but no longer that exciting.

    Good value, through.
    Reply
  • nandnandnand - Wednesday, August 4, 2021 - link

    Vega is showing its age. We all know the next big APU is Rembrandt with RDNA 2 graphics. After that, maybe Strix Point (rumored big/little). Reply
  • vlad42 - Thursday, August 5, 2021 - link

    Rembrandt will most likely use RDNA1 as AMD just recently submitted drivers to the Linux kernel for a new RDNA1 based APU. It is unlikely they are planning to release another APU given we have not heard any rumors to that effect. Though I would love to be wrong! Reply
  • nandnandnand - Thursday, August 5, 2021 - link

    No, it will use RDNA 2, just like Van Gogh (Steam Deck). That RDNA 1 APU is probably some embedded part. Reply
  • vlad42 - Thursday, August 5, 2021 - link

    I have seen no indication of such a part from the roadmaps AMD has presented in the shareholder meetings. Every official roadmap has shown Van Gogh, Rembrandt and if I remember correctly, some other iteration of Renoir/Lucienne. Given that every previous embedded chip has just been a variation of the laptop/desktop SKUs, it is highly unlikely they would hide the existence of a new dedicated embedded chip from investors (they can get sued over that!).

    I guess it could be a semicustom part where the customer wants open source Linux drivers?

    Remember how all the late stage rumors claimed Renoir and then Cezanne would use RDNA1, while the early rumors for both claimed Vega? New rumors that pop up in the months leading up to a new chip launch claiming radical technology changes from previous rumors, such as a change in GPU architecture, are normally wrong/bogus.

    It seems more realistic to temper expectations and assume Rembrandt will use RDNA1 given the driver submission, fact that all early rumors suggested so, and that it is the only other APU we know of that is releasing in the near future.
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  • vlad42 - Thursday, August 5, 2021 - link

    Just saw your post down below. I must have missed that Yellow Carp was for an APU as well. For some reason, I thought it was for the entry level discrete market.

    Maybe I missed that there is a new embedded market chip (it's not like they get much news coverage) or it is a semicustom part like I suggested above. It seems too early for Yellow Carp to be for the Zen4 based APUs unless they are coming sooner than we think or AMD is starting to upstream driver work earlier.
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