Conclusion: Powerful, but Power Hungry

After last week’s reveal of Tiger Lake-H, today’s results put things into context for Intel’s new high-end enthusiast mobile platform. The new design follows roughly 8 months after our initial coverage of the lower power “regular” Tiger Lake design and SKUs. The question is whether the new Tiger Lake-H can differentiate itself beyond just the notion that it’s a doubled-up core count variant of the lower power models.

I’ll have to reiterate that our review today isn’t nearly as in-depth as usual – due to circumstances we’ve essentially only had 2 days’ worth of testing of Intel’s reference Tiger Lake-H laptop, however in this time I think we can come to some crucial conclusions as to how the design performs and where it positions itself against the competition.

From a feature perspective, the new Tiger Lake-H platform seemingly delivers, offering up the necessary I/O and platform features to enable it to compete in the super high-end enthusiast and desktop-replacement laptop market.

Obvious requirements for this segment are also unquestioned performance metrics, and it’s here where things become rather complicated for the new 8-core Willow Cove design.

The area where the new TGL-H and particularly today’s tested Core i9-11980HK performs extremely well and is undoubtedly the leader among mobile x86 CPUs, is in its single-threaded performance. The new Willow Cove CPU cores alongside with the extremely high 5GHz boost frequencies achieved by the chip means that it manages to differentiate itself to even AMD’s more recent Cezanne Zen3 based Ryzen Mobile chips. While the performance lead isn’t large, it’s extremely solid at a 7-10% advantage throughout a very large number of workloads throughout our test suite.

Where things are quite as straightforward, is the multi-threaded performance, as this is where we have to mention TDPs, power limits, and just the result of the Intel reference platform laptop we’ve tested today.

The system, as delivered by Intel, came with a default maximum 65W cTDP/PL1 setting, which is the i9 11980HK’s maximum advertised power setting. Unfortunately for the SKU, the reference laptop’s thermal design was not able to keep up with the power output of the chip under this setting, and we had to revert the system to Intel’s advertised default 45W PL1 setting for the chip. The 65W mode was just not sustainable, with noticeable thermal tripping down to 35W as well as peak temperatures of up to 96°C. In our multi-threaded SPEC tests, we saw the 65W mode only perform 9% better than the 45W mode even though in theory it’s supposed to have a 44% larger thermal envelope.

At 45W, the multi-threaded performance of the chip is well sustainable and reasonable for this kind of device form-factor and cooling solution, but here it needs to be put into context, particularly against the nearest competition, which is AMD’s Ryzen 9 5980HS. In our benchmarks, both the Core i9-11980HK and the Ryzen 9 5980HS battle it out, sometimes with the Intel chip coming ahead, sometimes with the AMD chip leading the results. The issue with this comparison though is that we’re comparing a 45W chip vs a 35W chip, and more often in compute heavy workloads such as rendering or encoding, the AMD chip comes ahead even though it has a lower TDP.

Intel’s new 10nm SuperFin process had promised to finally outperform the mature 14nm node – while we couldn’t get to a definitive conclusion based on the initial 4-core Tiger Lake designs due to the smaller core numbers, here in 8-core vs 8-core scenario at their latest microarchitecture implementations, we can still see that Intel is lagging behind in terms of efficiency versus AMD’s 7nm CPUs.

This leads us to the conclusion and question for whom the new Tiger Lake-H designs are meant for. The market in recent years has generally attempted to switch away from bulkier desktop-replacement laptops, but it’s precisely this product segment which seems to be what Intel is targeting with TGL-H. A thicker device with more robust cooling capabilities would certainly unleash the new 8-core design’s performance, but unfortunately, exactly where this performance would end up is something we unfortunately weren’t able to answer in today’s piece.

The rest of the market generally is pivoting towards high-performance compact designs within that crucial <20mm thickness. While Tiger Lake-H here certainly delivers large generational performance improvements to previous SKUs in the H-series, such as Comet Lake-H, it doesn’t seem to be sufficient to quite catch up to the AMD alternatives which while maybe not as performant in every workload, do win it out on an efficiency basis.

As Intel noted in its launch event, Tiger Lake-H is said to already have 80+ enthusiast designs in the works, likely to come out in the next few months to rest of the year. The final verdict on TGL-H will be in final commercial products, which we expect to see in the next month or two.

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  • schujj07 - Monday, May 17, 2021 - link

    You are comparing a gaming laptop against a high end professional laptop. First the 4900HS is a 35W CPU and the 10810U is a 15W CPU. If both laptops have equally size batteries, the one with the lower TDP "should" have longer battery life. On top of the the G14 has a 120Hz display and a dGPU. Both of those will pull extra power and the screen was specifically talked about in reviews of the laptop. Setting the screen to a 60Hz refresh rate instead of 120Hz significantly increased battery life. Finally the weird freezes is most likely due to the dual GPU design and switching between the iGPU and dGPU. Unless you are using so much RAM that you are page swapping.
  • Otritus - Wednesday, May 19, 2021 - link

    @schujj07 I have the same zephyrus laptop as morello159. I haven't experienced weird freezes when switching between gpus on mine, or my old laptop with an intel processor and nvidia gpu, so optimus working isn't likely to be causing the freezing. The random high power draw is a valid complaint though. I think the randomness is caused by Asus's turbo settings, which was mostly fixed by me modifying power limits and disabling turbo. But, the default experience is the processor randomly boosting ridiculously high when it should be in a near idle state and not clocking anywhere near as high. Like the chip randomly pushes all 8 cores to 3.8Ghz, when it should be running in the 1.4-1.7Ghz range.
  • bji - Monday, May 17, 2021 - link

    Why should I care AT ALL that one platform has been more stable *for you* (your words)? You are irrelevant. Just one piece of anecdotal data.
  • Calin - Tuesday, May 18, 2021 - link

    They are trading blows in performance, but AMD is doing that on 35W instead of 45W for Intel.
    For manufacturers that use the same chassis with Intel AND AMD processors, the Intel one will run hotter, be noisier and/or have lower battery life when working hard (I don't seem to find anything related to idle/low power consumption).
  • jenesuispasbavard - Monday, May 17, 2021 - link

    If you're planning on further testing, maybe using Intel XTU you can limit the PL1/PL2 to 45W and see how that performs?
  • jenesuispasbavard - Monday, May 17, 2021 - link

    Maybe I should scroll to page 2 before commenting on page 1...
  • vyor - Monday, May 17, 2021 - link

    I'm sorry, but your SPECFP2017 results are just wrong. There is no possible way that the 1185G7 is faster than the 11980HK by 2x in 503.bwaves

    That's just absurd, especially when every other test bar 3 shows the exact opposite results, and even of those that show similar results it isn't nearly to the same degree baring 549.fotonik, and that one has the 4900HS somehow being faster than the 5980HS.

    So no, your testing is just wrong and broken.
  • Otritus - Monday, May 17, 2021 - link

    The 1185G7 being twice as fast is a little questionable, and possibly the results for the Tiger Lake processors were switched accidentally.

    As to the 4900HS being faster than the 5980HS in one very specific subtest, I suppose companies have never released a new CPU architecture slower than the old one. That's why Bulldozer was well received for its incredible performance over Thuban. Rocket Lake was well loved for consistently beating Comet Lake and Zen 3 in gaming, with the 11900K always at the top of the chart. Broadwell-S of course isn't better than Skylake or competitive with Coffee Lake in gaming.
  • vyor - Monday, May 17, 2021 - link

    Except that Zen3 is consistently faster in almost every way.
  • Otritus - Monday, May 17, 2021 - link

    Keyword "almost"
    Zen 3 does not win every benchmark over Zen 2, just the vast majority of them due to superior clock speeds and IPC. In 1 very specific subtest, out of all the test conducted, is it really unreasonable to see the older architecture get a win. The last time I can think of a new architecture winning every single benchmark was Conroe. Sandybridge might also get this title with workloads that didn't need more than 4 cores, but I don't exactly recall. Remember IPC is an average of performance at a given frequency, so if a few benchmarks have negative improvements in IPC, but most have large positive improvements, you can easily see a 20% IPC uplift.

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