Conclusions

It is easy to get caught up in the hype. A vendor that has had a number of recent successes comes along, shouting from the rooftops about a new product. The fact that they’ve had recent success buoys the immediate confidence, but it’s in a product area which they’ve had historically poor performance in, and it’s clear that in the past the segment has needed a push.


AMD CEO Dr. Lisa Su with a Ryzen Mobile 4000 Notebook (CES 2020)

With the Ryzen Mobile 4000 series, AMD is promising at least parity with the competition, if not outright dominance. But it’s a segment that also requires OEM support. Out of the gate AMD, partnering with ASUS, Lenovo, and Dell, are listing some high quality devices with promises of performance and parity. Offering up to eight cores for 15 W along with improved graphics, then 45 W processors in system designs that weren’t previously seen in the market, is a very compelling offer. To that end, we’ve tested one of the best examples of AMD’s new hardware, in the ASUS Zephyrus G14, a 14-inch mobile powerhouse that looks like an ultraportable, but isn’t as bulky as a traditional high-throughput machine.

Inside the Zephyrus G14 is AMD’s Ryzen 9 4900 HS, a 35 W variant of the 4900H, with eight Zen 2 cores, and it was paired with a GeForce RTX 2060 Max-Q, given that these sorts of processors are often paired with discrete graphics, and ASUS went down the NVIDIA route with this design. The monitor is a 1080p 120 Hz adaptive refresh display, with the system offering 16 GB of DDR4-3200, a 1 TB Intel 660p NVMe SSD, and an Intel Wi-Fi 6 solution. Users can charge the 76 Wh battery either by a bundled 180 W power supply, or a 65 W Type-C connection. ASUS is set to sell this configuration for $1449, which is a super price given the specifications.

Our comparison point was a slightly more expensive Razer Blade 15-inch, which offered a 6-core Intel processor with essentially the same GPU, a high refresh rate 1080p display, and almost near parity on the rest of the internals. This review has covered two parts – the processor and the notebook.

The AMD Ryzen 9 4900HS

One could argue that with the upcoming consoles each having eight Zen 2 cores inside with integrated graphics, one of the best pieces of hardware to have for gaming would be a chip with eight Zen 2 cores and integrated graphics. The Ryzen 9 4900HS in our device is lower power, but in the G14 it packs quite a punch. In our CPU tests we saw a single thread lead over the i7-9750H, even though the i7-9750H advertises a higher single core turbo speed, and the multithreaded tests were easily on AMD’s side, offering more cores and a better instruction throughput per clock.

For gaming, we are still in a hit and miss stage – most of our benchmarks with the RTX 2060 were on the boundary of switching between CPU and GPU limited, and in the older simpler tests (like CS:S) Intel pulled ahead. Intel also won on Civilization 6, both the GPU and the AI test. On the newer tests, like Borderlands 3 and Final Fantasy 15, the AMD CPU was ahead. This all turned on its head however, when we looked at on-battery power saver performance, which put AMD ahead across the board. At that lower power, AMD was driving a better CPU/GPU performance balance compared to our Intel system.

In our hardware tests, we saw that the core-to-core latency inside a Renoir CCX is actually a few nanoseconds quicker than with Intel’s ring (17-18 vs 19-21), however going between CCXes comes with a penalty. That penalty is lower than a desktop Matisse processor because we don’t have to travel off-die to go between the CCXes. What was perhaps surprising is our ramp clock test – AMD is able to go from idle (1.4 GHz) to turbo (4.4 GHz) in just under 20 milliseconds, or one frame at 60 Hz. Compared to our Intel chip, which took ~40 milliseconds to go from idle to turbo (1.1 GHz to 4.1 GHz) but then another 40 milliseconds to jump up another 100 MHz. This should imply that AMD’s system can be more responsive, but not only that, AMD’s system went +100 MHz above the advertised turbo, whereas the Intel system was actually -300 MHz down.

Even though this device has a discrete GPU, we tried the integrated GPU, which AMD promised is a super-improved Vega8 design with higher frequency (1750 MHz) and better memory (DDR4-3200). They’re not wrong – it trashed our 3500U system which also has Vega8 graphics (1200 MHz and DDR4-2400).

On the memory side, we put in a stick of 32 GB DDR4-2666, and saw that our gaming tests took a nose dive. It looks like this is a system that really likes memory frequency, which is going to be important when the desktop variants hit the market. It also means users that are looking at the cheaper Ryzen Mobile 4000 devices should be wary of what memory configuration they are getting.

The ASUS Zephyrus G14

I think we can all agree that when we get access a nice laptop, one that doesn’t delay or falter or need any kind of babysitting to get right, it is a dream. This is what ASUS has tried to do with the G14. It has a really appealing design, as is clear by how many awards it was given at CES, and as mentioned above, it is a lot slimmer than the image that appears mentally when you hear the words ‘8-core CPU with RTX 2060 and 76 Wh battery inside’. ASUS and AMD have put together a really nice system, and it shows.

There are two primary negatives to mention – no webcam, and the backlighting on the keyboard is quite bad for a device of this price. Something that sat both sides of the fence was the display, which was really nicely color calibrated, but the peak brightness (260 nits) wasn’t as high as I was hoping for.

However, the positives outweigh the negatives. Comparing to an equivalent Intel system, the Razer Blade 15 with a 6-core CPU and same GPU, performance depending on the benchmark was almost on par, or AMD was vastly ahead. In power limited scenarios, AMD saw most of the benefits.

Video Playback Battery Life - 200 nits

For battery life, we got a very big wow moment straight away. Our local movie playback battery test at 200 nits scored an amazing 12h33, well beyond what we were expecting and beating AMD’s metric of 11 hours – this is compared to the Intel system which got 6h39. For our web battery test, this is where it got a bit tricky – for whatever reason (AMD can’t replicate the issue), our GPU stayed on during our web test presumably because we do a lot of scrolling in our test, and the system wanted to keep the high refresh rate display giving the best experience. In this mode, we only achieved 4h39 for our battery, which is pretty poor. After we forced the display into 60 Hz, which is supposed to be the mode that the display goes into for the desktop when on battery power, we shot back up to 12h23, which again is beyond the 9 hours that AMD was promoting for this type of workload. (The Intel system scored 5h44). When the system does the battery life done right, it’s crazy good.

Final Thoughts

It is hard to get a sense of the entire product portfolio from just a single halo processor. That being said, we’ve been waiting for AMD to have a halo notebook design for over a decade. This is it, or at least one of them. It’s hard not to miss the improvement to battery life, which has been a key sticking point for any AMD system, even the Surface Laptop 3. On top of that is the core performance, where AMD can surpass Intel while also being at a lower advertised frequency, or by virtue of offering eight cores in this sort of platform. It’s going to get crazy over 2020 and 2021, where Intel will still offer four cores in its 15 W Tiger Lake designs, whereas AMD will offer eight cores.

The Surface Laptop 3 design win with the previous generation hardware was nice for AMD, but perhaps more importantly it lays the foundation for AMD to work with Microsoft on something bigger and better for the Surface Laptop 4. Ryzen Mobile 4000, with AMD promising 100-130+ designs coming out this year on the platform, looks like is going to produce a really interesting number of impressive designs from all the major OEMs.

 
Testing the Ryzen 9 4900HS with DDR4-2666 and DDR4-3000
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  • Deicidium369 - Sunday, April 12, 2020 - link

    Thing is AMD is not their largest customer - they also build for Apple and Nvidia - so NO, TSMC could NOT deliver the same volume as Intel - not even close.
  • Qasar - Sunday, April 12, 2020 - link

    and intel cant deliver 10nm in volume, point is ?
  • Namisecond - Monday, April 13, 2020 - link

    Until we know actual numbers, Intel's "Can't deliver in volume" may still be more than the volume AMD can. To the point where they win the OEM contracts.
  • Qasar - Monday, April 13, 2020 - link

    and i STILL cant buy any 10nm based chips from intel, that kinda points to cant deliver in volume to me. some markets are getting them, but my local computer stores, best buy, or other stores that sell notebooks, dont have any.
  • Deicidium369 - Monday, April 13, 2020 - link

    I bought 2 Dell 2-in-1s back in October - both 10nm Ice Lake, both i7-1065G7s. The fact you can't seem to locate them at the Goodwill where you shop, doesn't change the fact they are around, and no problem to get.

    try http://www.dell.com
  • Qasar - Monday, April 13, 2020 - link

    and yet more insults.. that all you got now ?? grow up
  • Deicidium369 - Monday, April 13, 2020 - link

    I would bet you that Intel has sold more 10nm than AMD has sold period. The idea that Intel can't deliver silicon is a cute story. Intel 10nm is in like 20 different designs, and there are other 10nm products other than the laptops stuff. So they are delivering it in volume - for close to a year now - and they signaled that by making the Cooper Lake 4 and 8 socket only and only having 10nm Xeon in 1 and 2 socket.
  • Qasar - Monday, April 13, 2020 - link

    " I would bet you that Intel has sold more 10nm than AMD has sold period " yea right, prove it.. most some links instead of your intel biased BS
    again.. just be cause YOU were able to by intels 10nm stuff where YOU are, doesnt make it high volume, and to quote dell as being a source, good one, guess what dell as used intel for MOST of the time its been in business, and there for, more then likely gets first dibs.
  • Namisecond - Monday, April 13, 2020 - link

    If TSMC were exclusively working on AMD stuff, possibly, but TSMC has more steady and more lucrative customers like Nvidia, Qualcomm and Apple. To make matters worse, AMD is also tying up valuable fab time with their console SoCs.
  • Namisecond - Monday, April 13, 2020 - link

    World's largest fab or not, You can't just throw some money at TSMC and demand more wafers overnight. Last I checked, TSMC was at capacity and was not accepting new orders for anything less than 18 months into the future. This is how contract suppliers work. AMD also has the problem of game console SoCs tying up their available fab capacity at TSMC. Intel owns their own fabs. If they can get their shit sorted out, they won't have capacity problems like this. Just because Gondalf makes bad fanboi arguments doesn't mean you have to lower yourself to his level.

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