AMD 3990X Against Prosumer CPUs

The first set of consumers that will be interested in this processor will be those looking to upgrade into the best consumer/prosumer HEDT package available on the market. The $3990 price is a high barrier to entry, but these users and individuals can likely amortize the cost of the processor over its lifetime. To that end, we’ve selected a number of standard HEDT processors that are near in terms of price/core count, as well as putting in the 8-core 5.0 GHz Core i9-9900KS and the 28-core unlocked Xeon W-3175X.

AMD 3990X Consumer Competition
AnandTech AMD
3990X
AMD
3970X
Intel
3175X
Intel i9-
10980XE
AMD
3950X
Intel
9900KS
SEP $3990 $1999 $2999 $979 $749 $513
Cores/T 64/128 32/64 28/56 18/36 16/32 8/16
Base Freq 2900 3700 3100 3000 3500 5000
Turbo Freq 4300 4500 4300 4800 4700 5000
PCIe 4.0 x64 4.0 x64 3.0 x48 3.0 x48 4.0 x24 3.0 x16
DDR 4x 3200 4x 3200 6x 2666 4x 2933 2x 3200 2x 2666
Max DDR 512 GB 512 GB 512 GB 256 GB 128 GB 128 GB
TDP 280 W 280 W 255 W 165 W 105 W 127 W

The 3990X is beyond anything in price at this level, and even at the highest consumer cost systems, $1000 could be the difference between getting two or three GPUs in a system. There has to be big upsides here moving from the 32 core to the 64 core.

Corona 1.3 Benchmark

Corona is a classic 'more threads means more performance' benchmark, and while the 3990X doesn't quite get perfect scaling over the 32 core, it is almost there.

Blender 2.79b bmw27_cpu Benchmark

The 3990X scores new records in our Blender test, with sizeable speed-ups against the other TR3 hardware.

Agisoft Photoscan 1.3.3, Complex Test

Photoscan is a variable threaded test, and the AMD CPUs still win here, although 24 core up to 64 core all perform within about a minute of each other in this 20 minute test. Intel's best consumer hardware is a few minutes behind.

y-Cruncher 0.7.6 Multi-Thread, 250m Digits

y-cruncher is an AVX-512 accelerated test, and so Intel's 28-core with AVX-512 wins here. Interestingly the 128 cores of the 3990X get in the way here, likely the spawn time of so many threads is adding to the overall time.

AppTimer: GIMP 2.10.4

GIMP is a single threaded test designed around opening the program, and Intel's 5.0 GHz chip is the best here. the 64 core hardware isn't that bad here, although the W10 Enterprise data has the better result.

3D Particle Movement v2.1

Without any hand tuned code, between 32 core and 64 core workloads on 3DPM, there's actually a slight deficit on 64 core.

3D Particle Movement v2.1 (with AVX)

But when we crank in the hand tuned code, the AVX-512 CPUs storm ahead by a considerable margin.

DigiCortex 1.20 (32k Neuron, 1.8B Synapse)

We covered Digicortex on the last page, but it seems that the different thread groups on W10 Pro is holidng the 3990X back a lot. With SMT disabled, we score nearer 3x here.

LuxMark v3.1 C++

Luxmark is an AVX2 accelerated program, and having more cores here helps. But we see little gain from 32C to 64C.

POV-Ray 3.7.1 Benchmark

As we saw on the last page, POV-Ray preferred having SMT off for the 3990X, otherwise there's no benefit over the 32-core CPU.

AES Encoding

AES gets a slight bump over the 32 core, however not as much as the 2x price difference would have you believe.

Handbrake 1.1.0 - 1080p60 HEVC 3500 kbps Fast

As we saw on the previous page, W10 Enterprise causes our Handbrake test to go way up, but on W10 Pro then the 3990X loses ground to the 3950X.

GTX 1080: World of Tanks enCore, Average FPS

And how about a simple game test - we know 64 cores is overkill for games, so here's a CPU bount test. There's not a lot in it between the 3990X and the 3970X, but Intel's high frequency CPUs are the best here.

Verdict

There are a lot of situations where the jump from AMD's 32-core $1999 CPU, the 3970X, up to the 64-core $3990 CPU only gives the smallest tangible gain. That doesn't bode well. The benchmarks that do get the biggest gains however can get near perfect scaling, making the 3990X a fantastic upgrade. However those tests are few and far between. If these were the options, the smart money is on the 3970X, unless you can be absolutely clear that the software you run can benefit from the extra cores.

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  • PeachNCream - Monday, February 10, 2020 - link

    Computer viruses predate Lotus 1-2-3.
  • FunBunny2 - Tuesday, February 11, 2020 - link

    the point is: 1-2-3 brought the effort mainstream, by showing how DOS was just a sieve to the hardware. recall that the PC with DOS was only one of three OS available, and PC sales didn't matter much until Corporate figured out that they just had to have 1-2-3. Mitch made Bill rich, not Bill. until 1-2-3, M$ was a legit systems software maker. after that, not so much. Xenix was they're OS of the future.
  • FunBunny2 - Tuesday, February 11, 2020 - link

    ... and, for the PC, not according to this history: https://content.sentrian.com.au/blog/a-short-histo...
    "The first computer virus for MS-DOS was “Brain” and was released in 1986. It would overwrite the boot sector on the floppy disk and prevent the computer from booting. It was written by two brothers from Pakistan and was originally designed as a copy protection."

    learned how to do that from 1-2-3
  • Khenglish - Friday, February 7, 2020 - link

    Here's Unigine Heaven software rendered:

    https://i.imgur.com/0dfV4pd.png
    https://i.imgur.com/CEWhX31.png

    Fun fact: turning on tessellation drops fps by a factor of about 20.
  • Spunjji - Monday, February 10, 2020 - link

    Holy cow, I had no idea.

    I'd be interested (as a purely theoretical exercise) to see where the ideal performance balance of cores / clock speed / memory bandwidth falls when it comes to software rendering.
  • GreenReaper - Saturday, February 8, 2020 - link

    They use DirectX on Windows, and then Microsoft provides the fallback renderer.
  • Mikewind Dale - Friday, February 7, 2020 - link

    That might actually be an interesting test for someone who wants to run legacy games that don't support newer versions of Windows, DirectX, and/or don't have graphics driver support.

    For example, I was trying to play the original Diablo before the GoG version came out. It didn't work on my Radeon RX580, so I had to set up a VMWare Workstation virtual machine, with 3D acceleration support. However, even though VMWare Workstation supports 3D acceleration, it's still using my CPU, not my GPU. It's just that the virtual OS has software DirectX acceleration.

    Anyway, I benchmarked 3DMark2001 SE running in a Window XP virtual machine on my 8-core Ryzen 7 2700X. I actually got scores that were competitive with GPUs from the early 2000s. So my software 3D acceleration on a Ryzen 7 2700X was approximately the same speed as a GPU from circa 2001.

    It would be interesting to see how well a 64 core processor does.
  • Khenglish - Friday, February 7, 2020 - link

    I get 5947 with a 3920xm (full 4c/8t ivb with 8MB cache) at 4.3 GHz. I would expect your 2700x to be a bit more than double that.

    https://i.imgur.com/aeQcFuu.png
  • Mikewind Dale - Saturday, February 8, 2020 - link

    I'm getting about 6800. So perhaps the VMWare Workstation software display device cannot fully take advantage of parallelization?
  • Spunjji - Monday, February 10, 2020 - link

    That or it's not as efficient as Microsoft's software layer at translating DirectX code into something that can run on the CPU. If you had the time, you could try running 3DMark 2001 natively on your system the way Khenglish is and see if there's a difference.

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