Intel’s Ice Lake and Sunny Cove

A Welcome Update, with Questions on Execution

When launching a new mobile product using a new processor design, all the parts have to come together to make it work. This means all of the following:

  • The microarchitecture design
  • SoC implementation
  • Manufacturing
  • Co-operation with partners/OEMs
  • Time to Market
  • Messaging
  • Marketing
  • Interactions with the press and consumers
  • Promotion
  • Price
  • Competitiveness

Any one of these segments could make or break the next wave of innovation (a key phrase Intel likes to use). With Intel’s 10nm manufacturing process, and the 10th Gen Core 'Ice Lake' design, we’re moving along each of these points in turn, and it is interesting to see what the final reflection will be several years down the line. From our perspective, we now have extensive details on the core and the SoC, and Intel is slowly moving into product phase by the end of the year. We can evaluate what we’ve seen.

The Core and the SoC

Having ‘not another Skylake’ is a huge sigh of relief. With every new microarchitecture update, especially significant ones, we like to see how the power budget is being used and what key structures within the microarchitecture have been improved and expanded upon. The team behind the Sunny Cove core have listed some impressive hard numbers, with doubling the L1 store bandwidth, making significant L1 and L2 cache adjustments, increasing the reorder buffer a whopping +57%, and moving to a 10-port execution unit design. The inclusion of AVX-512 is welcomed by parts of the community for sure, although I expect not as many as Intel would like (this leads onto Intel’s DLBoost strategy, I’ll mention later). Assuming we can get the same +18% IPC metrics that Intel does, this is a great uplift and it will be exciting to see where we go from here.

On the SoC, the big improvements to the graphics and the memory controller are my important ones here. Intel is taking integrated graphics seriously again, with an improved 64 EU design that promises to match AMD’s best at 25W. Intel has improved its memory controller significantly here, now supporting LPDDR4-3733 and DDR4-3200, which helps given that the graphics hardware is always craving memory bandwidth.

Adding Thunderbolt 3 to the SoC is going to help drive adoption in the mobile space, however speaking to a number of press, we think that because TB3 still requires an expensive controller on the device end, that the standard still has that high-cost to entry barrier, even if it ends up being cheaper for host implementation. Until non-Intel TB3 device controllers hit the market, the biggest benefit here is going to be potential support for the USB4 standard. With respect to the Wi-Fi 6 enablement, I’m not so enthused here, as it still requires an additional Intel-only proprietary CNVi module, forcing OEMs to go down an Intel route. If Intel made the CNVi standard open to all, I’d be making a bigger deal about this.

Manufacturing and Time To Market

The fact that Intel is going to end up competing against itself, with Ice Lake-U against Comet Lake-U, is akin to shooting yourself in the foot. Ultimately we expect Ice Lake-U to be focused on the premium market through Intel’s Project Athena, but Comet Lake-U is likely to span from budget to premium as well, especially if it ends up supporting more cores than Ice Lake. Ice Lake should have been a 2017 product, and Intel is only now at a point where it believes its 10nm products are viable for the market, which leads to questions on if the process is even profitable, and how many chips are going to be made available to OEMs – again, because of Project Athena, only key OEM customers going for those premium devices are going to launch initially, tailoring the messaging towards that premium feel.

Questions still surround Intel’s 10nm viability, especially given that the company has promised it is going to be producing high core count Xeons on this process node. Hopefully we can get an update on that.

Ice Lake Messaging, and Project Athena

As mentioned, the whole deal with Whiskey Lake and Comet Lake single thread CPU performance being similar to Ice Lake is going to be a mess. Part of this is down to the messaging for sure, whereby both Ice Lake and Comet Lake are going to be Intel 10th Gen, with Core i7 and Core i5/i3 variants. The only way to distinguish between the two is that Ice Lake has a G in the SKU and Comet Lake has a U, details that some of Intel’s own partners don’t disclose on product pages on websites.

One thing that Intel could lean on is the AVX-512 in Ice Lake, and its DL Boost strategy. Despite AVX-512 being inside Intel’s Xeons, the amount of ‘consumer-grade’ software that uses it is very minimal. By moving it into the consumer platforms, and enabling features like VNNI, Intel wants to drive AI-software solutions into the market. One example we were given was the ability for image software to sort images by what it detects in them – and having this all done locally (and securely) on the CPU, rather than the cloud. If Intel can execute on DL Boost for consumers, it could be a big win, and an easy benefit over the competition.

Turning to Project Athena – I’m all in favor of driving innovation forward and defining specifications that help push new and innovative form factors to enhance the user experience. But as you might have guessed, as it stands, I’m not its biggest fan. The Athena ecosystem is its own closed playground – in order for OEMs to play ball, they have to meet a number of requirements, a sizable chunk of which are only beneficial through Intel-only hardware. For example, Athena devices need Wi-Fi 6, which can be provided by an M.2 module or a CNVi RF chip. Athena devices also need substantial battery life, and the best way to achieve that is by using a CNVi RF option – but Intel is the only one that can make them because the CNVi standard is proprietary.

If an OEM doesn’t want to use Intel’s Wi-Fi 6 solution, then it makes it harder to develop an Athena certified device. It means that OEMs have to play Intel’s game in order to compete in the space. For me, that’s a high entry fee. Sure, the certified devices at the end of day are likely to be great, but if they all have Intel Wi-Fi 6, then where’s the variation? Perhaps I’m a little altruistic here: Intel is trying to create its own certification program and to play by the rules might require investing in Intel-only designed controllers. But I feel that an effort like this works best when there’s competition at every level.

Competition

On a core-to-core level, Intel's recent designs have the following configurations:

Microarchitecture Comparison
  Skylake Cannon Lake Sunny Cove*   Zen Zen 2
L1-D
Cache
32 KiB/core
8-way
32 KiB/core
8-way
48 KiB/core
12-way
  32 KiB/core
8-way
32 KiB/core
8-way
L1-I
Cache
32 KiB/core
8-way
32 KiB/core
8-way
32 KiB/core
8-way
  64 KiB/core
4-way
32 KiB/core
8-way
L2
Cache
256 KiB/core
4-way
256 KiB/core
4-way
512 KiB/core
8-way
  512 KiB/core
8-way
512 KiB/core
8-way
L3
Cache
2 MiB/core
16-way
2 MiB/core
16-way
2 MiB/core
16-way
  2 MiB/core 4 MiB/core
L3 Cache Type Inclusive Inclusive Inclusive   Non-Inclusive Non-Inclusive
Decode 4 + 1 4 + 1 4 + 1   4 4
uOP Cache 1.5k 1.5k 2.25k   2k 4k
Reorder Buffer 224 224 352   192 224
Execution Ports 8 8 10   10 11
AGUs 2 + 1 2 + 1 2 + 2   1 + 1 2 + 1
AVX-512 - 1 x FMA 1 x FMA   -  
* Sunny Cove numbers for Client. Server will have different L2/L3 cache and FMA, like Skylake

Where AMD has reduced the size of the L1-D cache (to fit in a 4k micro-op cache), Intel has increased it. Both AMD and Intel now sit with 512 KiB L2 caches, although AMD is 4 MiB of non-inclusive cache to Intel's 2 MiB of inclusive cache. Intel has a much larger re-order buffer, and made improvements to its address generation units to help feed the cores. It's becoming ever more important to feed the beast.

Final Thought of the Day

Looking through the Ice Lake and Sunny Cove design, I have to give kudos to Intel’s engineers. The core microarchitecture looks solid, and there is no doubt that Intel will have a raw single thread performance advantage in the mobile space. I’m glad that Intel is taking its graphics solutions seriously again, and between the CPU and GPU, it’s good to see that extra power budget going to good use. I can’t wait to have the hardware on hand.

If you’re listening Intel, please consider the following: I haven’t seen any plans to bring Ice Lake to the desktop, but can we get a quad-core Ice Lake-U at 35W in a desktop processor form factor, for $179?

Competing Against Itself: 3.9 GHz Ice Lake-U on 10nm vs 4.9 GHz Comet Lake-U on 14nm
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  • repoman27 - Tuesday, July 30, 2019 - link

    "It stands to reason then that the smaller package is for lower performance and low power options, despite being exactly the same silicon."

    I know the die floorplans are the same, but have Intel ever actually confirmed that U and Y (or H and S series for that matter) are the exact same silicon? Is it strictly binning and packaging that separates the platforms, or is there a slight tweak to the manufacturing process to target lower power / higher frequencies? Intel production roadmaps would seem to indicate this isn't just a binning situation, but I've never been entirely certain on that point.

    And isn't Comet Lake-U 6+2 more likely to be 25 W, with Whiskey Lake-U 4+2 continuing to pull 15 W duty alongside Ice Lake-U 4+2?
  • CaedenV - Tuesday, July 30, 2019 - link

    Those goals for Aethena are OK, but my old Dell XPS 12 with a carousel frame hit all of those except biometric, and wake from sleep in <1 sec... well, and the bezel... but that was due to the carousel design which I would LOVE to come back in a more modern form.
    Not saying these goals are bad... but if a 6 year old midrange laptop can hit almost all of them, then this isn't exactly aiming for something amazing.
  • AshlayW - Tuesday, July 30, 2019 - link

    Quad core for 179 USD? What is this, 2015? No thanks.
  • HStewart - Tuesday, July 30, 2019 - link

    You do realize these are ultra-portable low power cpu's and not desktop chips
  • Samus - Tuesday, July 30, 2019 - link

    Intel is a mess right now, the execution of this along with the naming scheme is ridiculous.
  • shabby - Tuesday, July 30, 2019 - link

    18% ipc gain and 20% clock loss
    Place your bets how intel will spin this.
  • CHADBOGA - Tuesday, July 30, 2019 - link

    I'm quite disappointed the issue of security mitigation in hardware was not addressed. o_O
  • CityBlue - Saturday, August 3, 2019 - link

    Disappointed, but not surprised.

    Security (and by inference the performance overhead required to implement proper security) is not important according to Anandtech/Ian Cutress. Which is obvious nonsense, so the only logical conclusion is that Anandtech are now a thoroughly biased outfit incapable of any critical reporting, which is quite sad particularly as it means all their articles (particularly when they relate to Intel) have to be read with a very heavy dose of cynicism.
  • eek2121 - Wednesday, July 31, 2019 - link

    That picture of you biting a wafer is priceless.
  • Santoval - Wednesday, July 31, 2019 - link

    If Ice Lake-U has a ~3.5% higher single core performance (and, assuming the "multi-core overhead" is the same, multi-core performance as well) than Whiskey Lake-U despite having a 20% lower single core boost clock, then Sunny Cove must be an extremely impressive μarch. Or, er, that might not actually be the case : Ice Lake-U has a 18% higher IPC than the *original* Skylake of 2015, not Whiskey Lake. While Whiskey Lake is basically the same design it must have a somewhat higher IPC due to its much more mature process node and other optimizations.

    Let's be conservative and assume that Ice Lake-U (more specifically Sunny Cove) has a nice round 15% higher IPC than Whiskey Lake-U, with both at 15W. In that case, at a 20% lower boost clock Ice Lake-U should have a 5% lower performance than Whiskey Lake-U. Where is that +3.5% performance derived from then?

    Even if we assumed that Ice Lake-U 18% IPC edge is over Whiskey Lake-U (highly unlikely, otherwise Intel would not have dug out the original Skylake from its computing grave) that would still translate to Ice Lake-U having a 1.5% lower single core performance than Whiskey Lake-U, rather than being 3.5% faster than it.

    Maybe, just maybe, this is why Intel used just a single synthetic benchmark (surely compiled with aggressive flags and optimized for Intel CPUs) for that graph and avoided to disclose other synthetic benchmarks and real world use benchmarks? Is this also why they avoided to talk about CPU performance of Ice Lake in their Computex presentation, and instead focused on iGPU, Wifi and AI performance?

    Based on the disclosed clocks and the "disclosed" (in obfuscated form) IPC of Ice Lake-U I just cannot see it being in any way faster than Whiskey Lake-U. It will probably also have worse power efficiency, since it has the same or higher TDP range at a much lower clock.

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