Closing Thoughts

Wrapping up our look at what would seem to be the last GeForce desktop video card launch for the time being, the GeForce GTX 1650 caps off the Turing launch cycle in an interesting manner. On the one hand, NVIDIA’s pure technological dominance has never been quite so prominent as it is with the GTX 1650. On the other hand, their outright value of their lead over rival AMD has never been quite so muddled. As I noted earlier in this review, the GTX 1650 is a card that serves many masters, and it serves some better than others.

Overall, NVIDIA is treading in very familiar territory here, thanks to their well-defined product stack. The GTX 1650 is a low-end video card. It’s a low-priced video card. It’s a low-power video card. It’s a video card that no doubt will be filling OEM gaming systems left and right as the stock video card – and it’ll be a card that fills countless older OEM systems that need a pick-me-up that runs under 75W. It fills all of these roles well – as a GTX xx50 card should – but it’s also a card that definitely faces stiffer competition than the other members of the Turing GeForce family.

From a tech perspective then, GTX 1650 and its underlying TU117 GPU are another example of consistent execution on Turing GPU development by NVIDIA. By this point the Turing architecture is a known quantity – faster, more efficient, and packing a number of new graphics features – so for our regular readers who have been with us since the RTX 2080 launch, the GTX 1650 doesn’t get the luxury of delivering any big surprises here. But then “big” is the very opposite of what NVIDIA aimed to do with the GTX 1650; instead this launch is all about bringing the Turing architecture and its benefits down to their smallest GPU and video cards.

By the numbers then, the GeForce GTX 1650’s story is very similar to this year’s other GeForce launches. The $149 card is about 30% faster than its most comparable predecessor, the GTX 1050 Ti, which is just a bit under the generational performance gains we’ve seen from the other Turing cards. Like those other cards the performance gains aren’t nearly large enough to justify replacing an existing GeForce 10 series Pascal card, but it’s a far more enticing upgrade for replacing the GTX 750, GTX 950, and similar cards that are now a couple of generations old. Against the GTX 950 the new GTX 1650 is 63% faster, and compared to the GTX 750 Ti that’s a 111% performance lead.

GeForce: Turing versus Pascal
  List Price
(Turing)
Relative Performance Relative
Price
Relative
Perf-Per-Dollar
RTX 2080 Ti vs GTX 1080 Ti $999 +32% +42% -7%
RTX 2080 vs GTX 1080 $699 +35% +40% -4%
RTX 2070 vs GTX 1070 $499 +35% +32% +2%
RTX 2060 vs GTX 1060 6GB $349 +59% +40% +14%
GTX 1660 Ti vs GTX 1060 6GB $279 +36% +12% +21%
GTX 1660 vs GTX 1060 3GB $219 +28% +10% +16%
GTX 1650 vs GTX 1050 Ti $149 +30% +7% +21%

These performance gains also mean that the GTX 1650 is assuming the mantle as the best sub-75W video card on the market. The 30% performance gain over the previous holder, the GTX 1050 Ti, comes with only the slightest increase in power consumption – and easily staying under the 75W cap – making it the card to get for TDP-constrained systems. And HTPC users will find that it can decode every format thrown at it, from VP9 Profile 2 to all sorts of permutations of HEVC, making it a great candidate for driving the latest generation of HDR TVs. Just don't make plans to do HEVC encoding with the card if you care about bitrate efficiency.

All told, NVIDIA has ruled the roost for a while now in the 75W space, and the GTX 1650 only further widens this gap. NVIDIA cotinues to hold an edge on features, all the while enjoying a staggering 70% performance advantage over AMD’s most comparable 75W Radeon RX 560 cards.

But for everything going for it from a technology perspective, the GTX 1650 does face one big hurdle: AMD’s tenacity and willingness to sell GPUs with a thinner profit margin. While the GTX 1650 handily disposes of the Radeon RX 560, the Radeon RX 570 is another matter. An outright mid-range card that has seen its price knocked down to under $150, the RX 570 brings more of everything to the table. More performance, more memory, more memory bandwidth, more bundled games, and more power consumption. AMD can’t match NVIDIA on features or architectural efficiency at this point, but they can sure undercut NVIDIA’s pricing, and that’s exactly what the company has opted to do.

The end result is that while the GTX 1650 is easily the best sub-75W card on the market, it’s a whole different game once power consumption (and power efficiency) go out the window. On a pure performance basis AMD’s petite Polaris card offers around 11% better performance than the GTX 1650, and if you’re buying a video card in this price range, then that’s more than enough of a difference to take notice. The GTX 1650 may be technologically superior here, but if all you’re after is the best performance for the price then the decision is an easy one to make, and AMD is happy to win on sheer brute force.

It’s an unusual way to cap off the GeForce Turing launch, to say the least: NVIDIA, as it turns out, is both at its most and least competitive at the very bottom of its product stack. But with that said, NVIDIA could always cut the price of the GTX 1650 to be more in line with its performance – essentially spoiling AMD’s RX 570 on price. However, given the GTX 1650’s other strengths – not to mention NVIDIA’s significant OEM and branding advantages – I seriously doubt that NVIDIA has much incentive to do that. Instead it looks like NVIDIA is content to let AMD swing the RX 570 around, at least for now. However it bears noting that the GTX 1650 is not a fully-enabled TU117 card, and while I don’t expect a theoretical GTX 1650 Ti any time soon, at some point NVIDIA is going to roll that out and rebalance the market once more.

Last but not least, let’s shift gears and talk about the specific GTX 1650 we reviewed today, Zotac’s GAMING GeForce GTX 1650 OC. Zotac’s sole GTX 1650 card, the GAMING OC is competing in a market full of GTX 1650 cards from other board partners, and yet amongst all of those cards it’s arguably one of the purest GTX 1650 cards on the market. Despite NVIDIA’s intentions for the GTX 1650, most of their board partners went and built factory overclocked cards that blow right past the GTX 1650’s reference TDP of 75W, negating several of the GTX 1650’s advantages. Zotac’s GAMING GeForce GTX 1650 OC, by comparison, is a true 75W card, putting it in rare company as one of the only GTX 1650 cards that can actually be installed in virtually any system and powered entirely by the PCIe slot.

The end result is that, even with the extremely mild factory overclock, Zotac’s GAMING OC card is a solid baseline GTX 1650 card. The compact card doesn’t require an external PCIe power plug, and as a result can be dropped in almost any system. And at 5.54” long, it’s also among the shortest GTX 1650 cards on the market, letting it easily squeeze into smaller systems, including Mini-ITX machines.

In fact the only real drawback I can come up with for the card is its noise; while by no means loud, we have seen and tested other similar double-slot/single-fan cards before that are quieter. So while it’s still a solid choice for small systems, it’s not going to be an entirely silent card in the process. But if nothing else, this leaves Zotac with some room for a fully passive GTX 1650, which, I suspect, is something that would be particularly well-received in the HTPC market.

 
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  • eva02langley - Sunday, May 5, 2019 - link

    Hey, Turing is a joke. The only thing Turing brought is a different price bracket. Nvidia took 2 years and half before releasing Turing... so I don't see the age of Polaris to be an issue when new cards are coming in a couple of months.
  • Ryan Smith - Saturday, May 4, 2019 - link

    "This is by far the most 1650 friendly review I have seen online."

    Having finally read the other GTX 1650 reviews (I don't read them beforehand, to avoid coloring my own video card reviews), I agree with you on that. Still, I stand by my article.

    AMD is by no means desperate here. But they are willing to take thinner profit margins than NVIDIA does. And that creates all kinds of glorious havoc in the sub-$200 video card market.

    No one card wins in all categories here; one has better performance, another has better power efficiency. So it makes things a little more interesting for buyers as they now need to consider what they are using a card for - and what attributes they value the most.

    Next to the GTX 1650, the RX 570 is really kind of a lumbering beast. The power consumption difference for the 11% performance advantage is quite high. But at the end of the day it's still 11% faster for the same price, so if you're buying on a pure price/performance basis, then it's an easy call to make.

    As for Navi, AMD will eventually have a successor of some sort for Polaris 11. However I'm not expecting it in Q3; AMD normally launches the low-end stuff later.
  • eva02langley - Sunday, May 5, 2019 - link

    You can stand by your article, but it doesn't mean you are right because of it. You are living in LALA land Ryan for even believing that 75W difference is important. It would be important if the cards were of the same performances at a similar price... but it isn't.

    At this point, you can probably undervolt the RX 570 pretty close to the 1650 if that was sooooo important...

    I made the calculation that it is going to cost you 15-20$ of power per year for playing 4 hours per day. You cannot defend this. It is insanity.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=um63-_YPNcA

    https://youtu.be/WTaSIG5Z-HM
  • yannigr2 - Thursday, May 9, 2019 - link

    AMD in all those last years, is trying to defend it's position with smaller profit margins. It's not something that is doing now and it's not something that is doing only with RX 570, to make us question it's ability to maintain this price.

    One other thing is that, while in the review the GTX 1650 is tested against the 4GB RX 570, when there is something to be said about pricing and profit margings and questions about the ability of AMD to keep selling the RX 570 under $150, the 8GB model of the RX 580 is used. No mentioning of the much cheaper 4GB version that is used in the review.

    In the end of the day, RX 570 is not 11% faster for the same price. It's 11% faster for $30 less and the only question is if GTX 1650's power efficiency and a couple of other features are enough to justify the loss of 11% performance(or more if the RX 570 model was not overclocked) and a significant(for this price range) higher price tag.

    And no, we can't assume that in the near future AMD's prices will just jump 20% to make the GTX 1650 less of an expensive card. Especially when Navi is not far away, meaning that older hardware will have to be sold to make room for the new models, or just stay at those low prices to not interfere with newer Navi models that could come at $200 and up.
  • yannigr2 - Thursday, May 9, 2019 - link

    EDIT - clarification: In many tests, there are scores for the RX 570 4GB and not for the 8GB model.
  • catavalon21 - Saturday, May 4, 2019 - link

    In the 1660 and 1660Ti reviews, the RX 570 wasn't included; however, the RX 590 and RX 580 are shown taking 201 and 222 seconds respectively to complete the V-Ray benchmark 1.0.8, where this chart shows the RX 570 only taking 153 seconds. The GTX 1660 is shown taking 109 seconds in both that chart and this one. Since the 570 typically falls short of its 580/590 siblings, how did it manage to stomp them in this benchmark?

    https://www.anandtech.com/show/14071/nvidia-gtx-16...
  • GreenReaper - Saturday, May 4, 2019 - link

    I think this is a reasonable review. Using twice the power at maximum load is not an insignificant factor over the life of the card. But it depends on if additional heat means a cost, or just means you can run your heating less, how often you game, who is paying for your power, etc. Then there are factors such as Linux source driver support, which may or may not matter for a particular person.

    If pressed, I'd get the RX 570 in a heartbeat, but maybe not if I wanted to put it in my microserver (admittedly, I'd also need a low-profile card for that). But I'd rather wait for Navi in an APU. :-)
  • Koenig168 - Saturday, May 4, 2019 - link

    The article tries too hard to make Nvidia look good despite the GTX 1650 being inferior in performance compared to the RX 570 and overpriced for what it is offering.
  • Oxford Guy - Saturday, May 4, 2019 - link

    The last time I remember any major tech news site give Nvidia any grief was in the Fermi days, with the 480 and especially the 465. As bad as the 480 was, too, people still bragged about their triple 480 SLI systems and 480 dual SLI was routinely featured in benchmarks.
  • Haawser - Sunday, May 5, 2019 - link

    4GB RX 570 is $130, not $150. And beats the 4GB 1650 out of sight. It also only draws ~120W, which is not a lot seeing as the majority of 1650s (ie- those with a 6 pin) draw ~90W anyway.

    The actual 75W 1650s should be $99, and the rest shouldn't even exist. Because at $150-160 they are a complete and utter joke.

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