Ambient Overclocking and Power Scaling Analysis

For 24/7 overclocking, we used our hotel-room system to get a good shot at how the Core i7-8086K performs on a closed loop liquid cooler going through the multipliers one-by-one. For this we used a variation of our standard overclocking technique.

Home Overclocking, Step by Step

Due to timing and location, our overclocking method was as follows.

  1. Start with the CPU at 40x Multiplier and 1.05 volts
  2. Set Load Line Calibration to Level 1 (ASRock Z370 Taichi)
  3. Load up OS
  4. Run our Blender Test, take power and temperature data from AIDA
  5. If system fails, or test is over 95C, then stop testing
  6. If system fails, add +0.025 volts and go to step 3
  7. If test passes, note down Blender result, add a multiplier, and go back to step 3

Blender was a good mix of hardcore CPU load, memory accesses, and as a result, power draw. Any issues that required additional voltage for stability and coherency were found relatively quickly after starting the test.

The Blender test lasts around five minutes on the Core i7-8086K, which for our quick overclock testing is sufficient. For users who insist on 24/7 rock solid stability, it isn’t the test that you might like to see, however it still marks a good attack on the system.

Results

Using this methodology, we achieved the following results:

At default, our system would hit an all-core turbo of 4.3 GHz and scored 311 seconds on Blender, with the CPU at 62 degrees C and consuming 115 W. We also tested the system ‘at auto’ but with the CPU set to 5.0 GHz on all cores. This gave a Blender score of 268 seconds, but much higher temperatures (82 C) and power consumption (175 W).

When going up from 4.0 GHz manually, we can see that there is a disconnect in how the power is reported in the OS: AIDA64 reported a voltage that slowly increased as the multiplier increased, even if the voltage setting in the BIOS did not change. It also showed to hit a wall at 1.364 volts, even when adjusting the voltage in the BIOS helped with the higher multipliers. This was odd, but I think the poignant results here are Blender, Temperature, and Power.

I’m going to adjust the Blender results in to ‘renders per hour’, which is easier to visualize in a graph.

The key result here is going to be 5.0 GHz, which is a nice medium for power and performance but also temperatures and voltage. At this level, the system gives +16% performance for an additional +16% frequency. The problem though is the power.

Comparing a 5.0 GHz manual overclock to the ‘stock’ operation of the processor shows a 32% increase in power. But when compared to an equivalent 4.3 GHz manual overclock, the power gain is now a whopping +68%. We really are stretching the microarchitectural design at this stage.

What should be noted is that at default, the system drew 115W, which is 20W above TDP. As mentioned before, TDP is defined at base frequency, which is in this case 4.0 GHz. We saw a power consumption of 80 W at the base frequency, showing that the processor is still technically under that TDP value, at least when the user optimizes the voltage.  At a 95W level, if we were maximizing frequency for the TDP, we should have seen a base frequency of 4.4 GHz with this chip.

However, consider what might have been if Intel had decided to increase the TDP by +10W or +15W, up to 110W. In that case, we could have been playing with a chip that had a base frequency of around 4.6 GHz, depending on how other chips perform. As we will see in the results over the next few pages, Intel really did miss a trick here by not going down an increased TDP route.

Going for Gold

For anyone interested about the upper limits of our chip, 5.1 GHz was the realistic maximum. I could not get 5.2 GHz to be stable with Blender for more than about 30 seconds without it throwing an error, and as the voltage in the BIOS rose up to 1.425 volts, the system was showing peak temperatures at 100C, well beyond a comfortable limit. Speaking with Alva and his nice chip, he stated that with a delid, 5.2 GHz should be possible, although beyond that might be a bit tough given how quickly the voltage seems to ramp in our sample.

As for absolute maximum that we could load into Windows with, I was able to see 5.4 GHz. No load was applied for fear of the temperatures, and 5.5 GHz did not want to play ball.

Testing at 5.0 GHz

As part of our testing, we were able to run through a few benchmarks at both a high overclock and fast memory (and we tried both). Again, many thanks to ASRock again for the system for the system loan.

Thermal Interface and Extreme Overclocking, with Alva Jonathan Benchmarking Performance: CPU System Tests
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  • mkaibear - Tuesday, June 12, 2018 - link

    "Total flop"

    I suggest benchmarking the CPU in your phone against this CPU and try again.
  • SanX - Tuesday, June 12, 2018 - link

    They mostly serve different purposes and apps and have different TDP. But if you restrict consumption power of Intel processors to the same one of mobile processors then in the same apps it's not clear in advance which one will win.

    Time for ARM to look at the server and supercomputers markets.
  • iranterres - Monday, June 11, 2018 - link

    HAHA. Intel once again trying to fool some people and appeasing the fanboys with something worthless and expensive.
  • xchaotic - Tuesday, June 12, 2018 - link

    So are the regular i7-8600K unable to run all core 5GHz? If so, what't the max stable freq for a non-binned i7-8600K? Personally I went for an even lower/cheaper i5-8400 CPU, but I see why some people prefer to be running max speed all the time...
  • Rudde - Tuesday, June 12, 2018 - link

    I assume you mean the i7-8700k.
    There is a phenomenon called 'the silicon lottery.' Basically, when you buy an i7-8700k, you can't know the max stable frequency. It could max out at 5.2GHz or it could only reach 4.7GHz before going unstable. The thing is, you can't know what you'll end up with.
    This brings us to the i7-8068k. The i7-8068k is pretty much guaranteed to have a max stable frequency above 5GHz. Of course, this matters only when overclocking.
  • Bradyb00 - Tuesday, June 12, 2018 - link

    Is it a lower temp than a 8700k for a given multiplier though? i.e. both 8700k and 8086k at 46x which is cooler? 8700k obviously has to be averaged as not everyone is lucky with the silicon lottery.
    Presumption is the 8086k will run cooler on average due to the better binning.

    In which case I'm happy to pay more to save some degrees in my wee itx build
  • Lolimaster - Tuesday, June 12, 2018 - link

    Why not simply pick the Ryzen 5 2600, same thing with actual lower temps from using high quality solder...

    $189
  • TheinsanegamerN - Monday, June 18, 2018 - link

    Depends on the use case. For pure gaming, I'd stick with intel, which is a bit faster now and, if history is any indication, will hold up a LOT better for gaming in 5 years then the AMD chip will.

    Especially if you run games or emulators dependent on IPC (like PCSX2) the intel chip will perform a lot better then the AMD chip.

    There is also the memory controller. Ryzen 2000 improved, but intel's controller is still superior, and that matters for things like RTS games that consume memory bandwidth like black holes consume stars.
  • Stuka87 - Tuesday, June 12, 2018 - link

    Props to Asrock for providing the system so that you could get us stuff so quickly Ian. Not sure why everybody is complaining about the system and cooling that was used. The system was loaned to you so that you could get us numbers fast, which personally I am happy about. Thanks for your hard work Ian!
  • El Sama - Tuesday, June 12, 2018 - link

    This is quite the premium cost for a small increase in frequency that should be close to what you get to a 8700k OCed, an interesting offering regardless.

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