AMD Ryzen Price Drops, New Wraith Prism

One of the elements we reported on almost immediately was AMD’s decision to drop the suggested retail pricing of its current Ryzen desktop processors. Since the launch last year, Ryzen processors have varied quite dramatically from then to now: the processors started off at the launch pricing, but through the summer and into the winter, many retailers were offering discounts, without any catches. Throughout this time, AMD maintained that their launch-day pricing structure was still in place, and it was up to distributors and retailers to dictate the exact pricing, and as far as AMD was concerned, the price at which these processors were sold to distributors had not changed. This did not stop some of the media from speculating wildly in spite of AMD’s official line.

So fast forward to CES 2018, and the first official price list change for Ryzen really does shake up the landscape. For the top mainstream processors, there are deep discounts to be had, with up to $150 coming off the price of the Ryzen 7 1800X. The full list is as follows:

AMD Ryzen New Pricing
Processor Socket Type Cores/Threads Old SEP New SEP
Ryzen TR 1950X TR4 HEDT 16 / 32 $999 No Change
Ryzen TR 1920X TR4 HEDT 12 / 24 $799 No Change
Ryzen TR 1900X TR4 HEDT 8 / 16 $549 $449
 
Ryzen 7 1800X AM4 CPU 8 / 16 $499 $349
Ryzen 7 1700X AM4 CPU 8 / 16 $399 $309
Ryzen 7 1700 AM4 CPU 8 / 16 $329 $299
 
Ryzen 5 1600X AM4 CPU 6 / 12 $249 $219
Ryzen 5 1600 AM4 CPU 6 / 12 $219 $189
Ryzen 5 1500X AM4 CPU 4 / 8 $189 $174
Ryzen 5 1400 AM4 CPU 4 / 8 $169 No Change
Ryzen 5 2400G AM4 APU 4 / 8 N/A $169
 
Ryzen 3 1300X AM4 CPU 4 / 4 $129 No Change
Ryzen 3 1200 AM4 CPU 4 / 4 $109 No Change
Ryzen 3 2200G AM4 APU 4 / 4 N/A $99

If we line up a direct AMD vs. Intel with this new pricing, it is clear that there are a couple of battle grounds. The Ryzen 7 1800X, now at $349, squares up with the Core i7-7700K at $350, the previous generation high-end overclockable processor. The Ryzen 7 1700, our suggested mainstream AMD processor in 2017 is now $299, undercutting the Core i7-8700 while still having more cores. The Ryzen 5 1600 at $190 is now aligned with the Core i5-8400 at $187, and for this price the Ryzen 5 1600 offers simultaneous multi-threading whereas the Intel processor does not.

Down at the low end are the new processors with Vega graphics, the Ryzen 5 2400G at $169 and the Ryzen 3 2200U at $99, which are priced against the Core i5-8400 at $187 and Core i3-8100 at $117 respectively.

To put this into perspective, Intel used to publish its price list weekly, but after accidentally leaking the details of processors before launch, have migrated it to monthly (though they seem to have missed January?). Nonetheless, Intel rarely changes the suggested retail pricing of its mainstream processors.

What is not mentioned in this table is which processors come with which coolers. AMD’s best-selling products come with variants of the Wraith cooler provided in box, which would be considered a separate cost on the Intel lineup.

Wraith PRISM Launched, Wraith Max Reduced

As part of the price drop announcement, AMD is introducing a new variant of their Wraith cooler family to system integrators. The Wraith PRISM will sit above the Wraith Max and Wraith Spire in the family, going above the Max with a rainbow LED ring instead of just a red one, and illuminated fan blades. AMD is citing enhanced motherboard compatibility for the LEDs, and it still uses the same mounting mechanism since AM2. There will be an overclockable fan profile, or a silent operation mode capable of 39 decibels.

The only ‘downside’ to the cooler is that it will not be on general sale, or be bundled with any processors. In order to get one, it will be up to system integrators to use it and for users to buy a pre-built system. As a result, the cost will be up to the system integrator.

Edit Feb 2nd: Apologies on my part, this paragraph is wrong. I had erroneously remembered what AMD had told us. It has since been clarified: AMD will be communicating its Wraith PRISM strategy later through Q1.

The other element on cooler updates is a price drop for the Wraith Max. This is the one Wraith cooler that AMD does actually sell at retail, representing a 125W near-silent cooler with a shroud and a red LED ring around the fan. When AMD launched the cooler for $60 last year, a few of us baulked at the price: it’s a nice cooler to have, but it is not a $60 value. AMD is now going to have a suggested retail price of $45, which is more nearer the mark, but the cooler market is a competitive place for this sort of thing.

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  • haukionkannel - Monday, January 8, 2018 - link

    Vega 7nm is for mobile first, so that is the priority in gpu. Only the desktop version in 2019.
  • jjj - Monday, January 8, 2018 - link

    Nor quite. Vega on 7nm is a SKU aimed at machine learning that samples in late 2018. That means volume in 2019 and other SKUs later , if there are other SKUs- I am unclear if AMD stated that there are other SKUs or that's an AT assumption.
    There is a possibility that Navi hits high end in 2019 and Vega lives bellow but that's kinda silly as AMD needs to be in a huge rush to replace Vega with something that is more competitive.
  • haukionkannel - Monday, January 8, 2018 - link

    True. The machine learning chips Are the top priority I was just quessing that mobile part would Also get upgrade. My bad...
    So next Vega goes against machine learning Volta. Maybe Nvidia neither will release normal Volta, only those calculate monsters to AI projects. That would be interesting.
  • jjj - Wednesday, January 10, 2018 - link

    Vega 7nm is 2019 for volumes it seem, Volta V100 will be replaced by something new likely this year and again in 2019- at the very least there will be one update.
    What Nvidia will do in consumer is unclear as there is no pressure on them to spend on releasing new things. The Intel+AMD part is problematic in laptop so likely they'll address that segment soon with something new.
  • Pinn - Monday, January 8, 2018 - link

    Lisa is my waifu. I'm fine with my wife and daughter reading this.
  • StevoLincolnite - Monday, January 8, 2018 - link

    Ugh. No Navi until 2019. So AMD's graphics are guaranteed to be terrible for another year.
  • Pinn - Monday, January 8, 2018 - link

    and nvidia is guaranteed not to release volta for consumers.. fun.
  • Xajel - Monday, January 8, 2018 - link

    I was really hoping for a low power 8C/16T Ryzen CPU's, these can be used in SFF & laptops with dGPU already... these will be for those who want more CPU performance than GPU, or they need both CPU & GPU power.
  • A5 - Monday, January 8, 2018 - link

    You'll probably have to wait for 7nm for that. Current thermal budgets in laptop designs just aren't going to get you usable 16T performance from 35-45W.
  • neblogai - Monday, January 8, 2018 - link

    Table of Ryzen Mobile CPUs has all Raven Ridge APUs with '1MB per core'. But this is not true for R3 2200U, which still has the same 4MB of L3: http://www.amd.com/en-us/press-releases/Pages/ces-...
    Also- I still hope that is a Banded Kestrel die. On that topic, Joe Macri, when asked about RR use for fanless designs back in October, said it would not work too well, and would have to be clocked real low; when asked if they are building a different chip for that fanless market- answered only broadly- 'we love PCs,.. we want you to find AMD everywhere where PC is'. So I'm not sure- does that still mean only Stoney Ridge (if it qualifies for fanless), or a new die. Just looking at the AMD's below average power efficiency in RR laptops at browsing and playing video- maybe AMD knew they are simply not ready for fanless, and need to put in more work. But I still wish they released Zen 2C/4T 3CU - if not low power- then at least for even cheaper normal laptops. After all- Raven Ridge is not very small die at 210mm2, and a very cheap ~110mm2 die with 2c/4t Zen could also be successful.

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