Frequency Scaling

Below is an example of our results from overclock testing in a table that we publish in with both processor and motherboard. Our tests involve setting a multiplier and a frequency, some stress tests, and either raising the multiplier if successful or increasing the voltage at the point of failure/a blue screen. This methodology has worked well as a quick and dirty method to determine frequency, though lacks the subtly that seasoned overclockers might turn to in order to improve performance.

This was done on our ASUS Z170-A sample while it was being tested for review. When we applied ASUS's automatic overclock software tool, Auto-OC, it finalized an overclock at 4.8 GHz. This was higher than what we had seen with the same processor previously (even with the same cooler), so in true fashion I was skeptical as ASUS Auto-OC has been rather hopeful in the past. But it sailed through our standard stability tests easily, without reducing in overclocking once, meaning that it was not overheating by any means. As a result, I applied our short-form CPU tests in a recently developed automated script as an extra measure of stability.

These tests run in order of time taken, so last up was Handbrake converting a low quality film followed by a high quality 4K60 film. In low quality mode, all was golden. At 4K60, the system blue screened. I triple-checked with the same settings to confirm it wasn’t going through, and three blue screens makes a strike out. But therein is a funny thing – while this configuration was stable with our regular mixed-AVX test, the large-frame Handbrake conversion made it fall over.

So as part of this testing, from 4.2 GHz to 4.8 GHz, I ran our short-form CPU tests over and above the regular stability tests. These form the basis of the results in this mini-test. Lo and behold, it failed at 4.6 GHz as well in similar fashion – AVX in OCCT OK, but HandBrake large frame not so much. I looped back with ASUS about this, and they confirmed they had seen similar behavior specifically with HandBrake as well.

Users and CPU manufacturers tend to view stability in one of two ways. The basic way is as a pure binary yes/no. If the CPU ever fails in any circumstance, it is a no. When you buy a processor from Intel or AMD, that rated frequency is in the yes column (if it is cooled appropriately). This is why some processors seem to overclock like crazy from a low base frequency – because at that frequency, they are confirmed as working 100%. A number of users, particularly those who enjoy strangling a poor processor with Prime95 FFT torture tests for weeks on end, also take on this view. A pure binary yes/no is also hard for us to test in a time limited review cycle.

The other way of approaching stability is the sliding scale. At some point, the system is ‘stable enough’ for all intents and purposes. This is the situation we have here with Skylake – if you never go within 10 feet of HandBrake but enjoy gaming with a side of YouTube and/or streaming, or perhaps need to convert a few dozen images into a 3D model then the system is stable.

To that end, ASUS is implementing a new feature in its automatic overclocking tool. Along with the list of stress test and OC options, an additional checkbox for HandBrake style data paths has been added. This will mean that a system needs more voltage to cope, or will top out somewhere else. But the sliding scale has spoken.

Incidentally at IDF I spoke to Tom Vaughn, VP of MultiCoreWare (who develops the open source x265 HEVC video encoder and accompanying GUI interface). We discussed video transcoding, and I bought up this issue on Skylake. He stated that the issue was well known by MultiCoreWare for overclocked systems. Despite the prevalance of AVX testing software, x265 encoding with the right algorithms will push parts of the CPU beyond all others, and with large frames it can require large amounts of memory to be pushed around the caches at the same time, offering further permutations of stability. We also spoke about expanding our x265 tests, covering best case/worst case scenarios from a variety of file formats and sources, in an effort to pinpoint where stability can be a factor as well as overall performance. These might be integrated into future overclocking tests, so stay tuned.

The Intel Skylake i7-6700K Overclocking Performance Mini-Test CPU Tests on Windows: Professional
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  • Oxford Guy - Saturday, August 29, 2015 - link

    The problem is that overclocks should NEVER be called stable if they aren't.

    And, I don't like the way Anandtech pumps ridiculous amounts of voltage into chips (like they did with the 8320E).
  • Gigaplex - Sunday, September 27, 2015 - link

    Production software in my books is any released software that completes a useful task, rather than just run synthetic tests.
  • hyno111 - Saturday, August 29, 2015 - link

    Is there a temperature chart for overclocking?
  • sonny73n - Sunday, August 30, 2015 - link

    Ian seems to miss the most important part in OCing.
  • MrSpadge - Thursday, September 3, 2015 - link

    The temperature depends strongly on your cooling, TIM application etc. If Ian included those numbers, people would be shouting "but I get different values with..."
  • kneelbeforezod - Saturday, August 29, 2015 - link

    12% better performance for a 32% power increase. uha.
  • StrangerGuy - Saturday, August 29, 2015 - link

    I OCed a cheapo AXP1700 by 25% on a budget nForce 2 board and stock cooling simply with FSB 266->333. I OCed my $183 E6300 that surpassed a $1000 X6800 in performance.

    Now, Intel and Asus et al thinks they are doing us a favor top-end mainstream CPUs that are barely overclockable on even on the most pricey of mobos, and hardly anyone calling out their bullshit, just because of unlocked multipiers? Gimme a break.

    Am I the only sane guy here or what?
  • jihe - Monday, August 31, 2015 - link

    That's why I'm still on nehalem, overclocking an x5650 is much more fun than this pay a premium to overclock crap that intel has been feeding us.
  • SanX - Saturday, August 29, 2015 - link

    Ian, add at least 4790k at 4.5-4.8GHz for us to see how bad new processors actually are
  • V900 - Saturday, August 29, 2015 - link

    Isn't this right about the usual time an AMD troll jumps in to tell us how you can overclock Kaveri to 5 Ghz, and you don't even need an aircooler or anything!

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