AMD A10-7800 Review: Testing the A10 65W Kaveri
by Ian Cutress on July 31, 2014 8:00 AM ESTGaming and Synthetics on Processor Graphics
The faster processor graphics become, the more of the low end graphics market is consumed - if the integrated graphics are better than a $50 discrete GPU, there ends up being no reason to buy a discrete GPU. This might seem a little odd for AMD, who also have a discrete GPU business. The counter argument is that integrated graphics is only comparable to low-end GPUs, which are historically low margin parts and thus might encourage users to invest in larger GPUs, especially as demands in resolution and graphical eye-candy increase. The compute side is also important, and the homologation of discrete to integrated graphics architectures helps software optimised for one also be accelerated on the other.
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CompuBench 1.5
CompuBench is a new addition to our CPU benchmark suite, and as such we have only tested it on the following processors. The software uses OpenCL commands to process parallel information for a range of tests, and we use the flow management and particle simulation benchmarks here.
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The simple answer is this: for anything related to processor graphics, AMD's Kaveri wins hands down and by a large margin in the same power envelope for cheaper.
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Cerb - Sunday, August 3, 2014 - link
Graphics, and monitor compatibility, up until Haswell. With Haswell, graphics performance (drawing, photo, video, CAD, etc.). Ivy Bridge's IGP, FI, couldn't keep the res right on my Dell 1080p monitors at work. This is 2014, and I still need a video card just for that? I can't speak to IB, but through SB AutoCAD's graphics would be glitchy with Intel's IGP (parts of a viewport not refreshed, or offset from where it should be), as another example. Haswell seems to have gotten rid of those problems.TiGr1982 - Sunday, August 3, 2014 - link
Core i7-3770K has HD 4000, not HD 3000 (Core i7-2600K/2700K had HD 3000).Wixman666 - Thursday, July 31, 2014 - link
REAL budget gaming machine? $45 socket 1150 motherboard, $75 Haswell Pentium G3420 dual core CPU, $120 Nvidia 750 Ti... $240 total. Good on CPU, and graphics runs circles around those both for the same price out of the gate. Forget the i5 or A10.tomsworkshop - Thursday, July 31, 2014 - link
Pentium G3420 - 53W TDPGeforce 750 Ti - 60W TDP
Total - 113W TDP
Form Factor - Full ATX / MicroATX
Pros - better CPU single threaded performance
Cons - higher TDP (more power consumption), higher noise level (more fans "CPU + GPU“), more heat, bigger size
A10-7800 - 65W TDP
Total - 65W TDP
Form Factor - MicroATX / Mini-ITX
Pros - lower TDP (less power consumption), lower noise level (less fan needed), lower heat, Small Form Factor, can hybrid crossfire with low profile discrete GPU
Cons - lower CPU single threaded performance
The_Assimilator - Friday, August 1, 2014 - link
Sure, let's totally ignore the fact that the 750Ti will annihilate the APU in gaming. Or that it's entirely possible to get mITX Intel motherboards.tomsworkshop - Friday, August 1, 2014 - link
sure u can find the mini-itx intel motherboard for G3420 + 750 ti, but the high TDP (higher power consumption) still the matter we will care on this days, and the A10-7800 system could fit in the console size thin and slim casing, while the G3420 + 750 Ti system will not.evilsudoer - Friday, August 1, 2014 - link
The calculation for power draw should probably take the idle numbers instead of the max. Or you could weight it to assume the cpu/gpu are idle 50-80% of the time.Someone who games 8 hours a day probably will get a discrete graphics card regardless of power costs.
tomsworkshop - Friday, August 1, 2014 - link
the owner of the cyber cafe with 50-100 units gaming rig will care for the power cost, if the APU with lower power consumption can handle the games in medium setting at least, they will go for it.Andrew Lin - Tuesday, August 5, 2014 - link
sorry, but this is actually a really stupid argument.tomsworkshop - Thursday, August 14, 2014 - link
yeah, i agree your argument are stupid, and why did u still leave this stupid comment here ?