Conclusion: Powerful, but Power Hungry

After last week’s reveal of Tiger Lake-H, today’s results put things into context for Intel’s new high-end enthusiast mobile platform. The new design follows roughly 8 months after our initial coverage of the lower power “regular” Tiger Lake design and SKUs. The question is whether the new Tiger Lake-H can differentiate itself beyond just the notion that it’s a doubled-up core count variant of the lower power models.

I’ll have to reiterate that our review today isn’t nearly as in-depth as usual – due to circumstances we’ve essentially only had 2 days’ worth of testing of Intel’s reference Tiger Lake-H laptop, however in this time I think we can come to some crucial conclusions as to how the design performs and where it positions itself against the competition.

From a feature perspective, the new Tiger Lake-H platform seemingly delivers, offering up the necessary I/O and platform features to enable it to compete in the super high-end enthusiast and desktop-replacement laptop market.

Obvious requirements for this segment are also unquestioned performance metrics, and it’s here where things become rather complicated for the new 8-core Willow Cove design.

The area where the new TGL-H and particularly today’s tested Core i9-11980HK performs extremely well and is undoubtedly the leader among mobile x86 CPUs, is in its single-threaded performance. The new Willow Cove CPU cores alongside with the extremely high 5GHz boost frequencies achieved by the chip means that it manages to differentiate itself to even AMD’s more recent Cezanne Zen3 based Ryzen Mobile chips. While the performance lead isn’t large, it’s extremely solid at a 7-10% advantage throughout a very large number of workloads throughout our test suite.

Where things are quite as straightforward, is the multi-threaded performance, as this is where we have to mention TDPs, power limits, and just the result of the Intel reference platform laptop we’ve tested today.

The system, as delivered by Intel, came with a default maximum 65W cTDP/PL1 setting, which is the i9 11980HK’s maximum advertised power setting. Unfortunately for the SKU, the reference laptop’s thermal design was not able to keep up with the power output of the chip under this setting, and we had to revert the system to Intel’s advertised default 45W PL1 setting for the chip. The 65W mode was just not sustainable, with noticeable thermal tripping down to 35W as well as peak temperatures of up to 96°C. In our multi-threaded SPEC tests, we saw the 65W mode only perform 9% better than the 45W mode even though in theory it’s supposed to have a 44% larger thermal envelope.

At 45W, the multi-threaded performance of the chip is well sustainable and reasonable for this kind of device form-factor and cooling solution, but here it needs to be put into context, particularly against the nearest competition, which is AMD’s Ryzen 9 5980HS. In our benchmarks, both the Core i9-11980HK and the Ryzen 9 5980HS battle it out, sometimes with the Intel chip coming ahead, sometimes with the AMD chip leading the results. The issue with this comparison though is that we’re comparing a 45W chip vs a 35W chip, and more often in compute heavy workloads such as rendering or encoding, the AMD chip comes ahead even though it has a lower TDP.

Intel’s new 10nm SuperFin process had promised to finally outperform the mature 14nm node – while we couldn’t get to a definitive conclusion based on the initial 4-core Tiger Lake designs due to the smaller core numbers, here in 8-core vs 8-core scenario at their latest microarchitecture implementations, we can still see that Intel is lagging behind in terms of efficiency versus AMD’s 7nm CPUs.

This leads us to the conclusion and question for whom the new Tiger Lake-H designs are meant for. The market in recent years has generally attempted to switch away from bulkier desktop-replacement laptops, but it’s precisely this product segment which seems to be what Intel is targeting with TGL-H. A thicker device with more robust cooling capabilities would certainly unleash the new 8-core design’s performance, but unfortunately, exactly where this performance would end up is something we unfortunately weren’t able to answer in today’s piece.

The rest of the market generally is pivoting towards high-performance compact designs within that crucial <20mm thickness. While Tiger Lake-H here certainly delivers large generational performance improvements to previous SKUs in the H-series, such as Comet Lake-H, it doesn’t seem to be sufficient to quite catch up to the AMD alternatives which while maybe not as performant in every workload, do win it out on an efficiency basis.

As Intel noted in its launch event, Tiger Lake-H is said to already have 80+ enthusiast designs in the works, likely to come out in the next few months to rest of the year. The final verdict on TGL-H will be in final commercial products, which we expect to see in the next month or two.

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  • eastcoast_pete - Monday, May 17, 2021 - link

    A key question is now if Intel can further improve its 10 nm superfin process in time for Alder Lake. This TL is at least getting somewhat close to AMD's monolithic Zen3, but Rembrandt is around the corner, and that'll be an even more capable competitor. Right now, Intel retains its market share mostly because AMD can't deliver as many CPUs as people would buy.
  • hfm - Monday, May 17, 2021 - link

    I'm looking forward to an i5 or i7 design with no dGPU and that sweet embedded TB4. Probably going to be a small subset of the offerings like the lower tier XPS 15/17. Interested to see what comes about later in summer.
  • evilspoons - Monday, May 17, 2021 - link

    It'd be helpful to see power-normalized graphs, some of these results are a bit of a double-edged sword.
  • outsideloop - Monday, May 17, 2021 - link

    I want to see a comparison of the 11980HK with the 5800X clocked down to 65W, apples to apples. Let's compare the thermals of the AMD 8-core desktop to this "desktop replacement" Intel 8-core.
  • Hifihedgehog - Monday, May 17, 2021 - link

    Core i9-11980HK:
    https://images.anandtech.com/doci/16680/P95-45W_57...

    Ryzen 9 5980HK:
    https://images.anandtech.com/doci/16446/Power-P95-...

    Just to add some further insight on these two charts, here is some breakdown. What ultimately happens is under sustained heavy loads, Ryzen 5000 series can maintain 8 cores at higher sustained clock speeds (~3.7 GHz) with lower power draw (35W). Bear in mind also that Zen 3 has a slight IPC advantage over Tiger Lake, meaning at a lower clock speed, it performs the same or does the same amount of work as Tiger Lake at a higher clock speed. Yet here we are where Ryzen 5000 can clock higher, do even MORE work, and draw less power. Meanwhile, Intel is struggling to reach similar sustained clock speeds (~3.2 GHz) at 45W sustained and it has slightly lower IPC. That is, Ryzen 5000 is ~10% faster clock-for-clock (or in IPC) than Intel's Willow Cove (Tiger Lake 11th Gen), Cypress Cove (Rocket Lake 11th Gen) or Sunny Cove (Ice Lake 10th Gen) which all three share roughly the same IPC amongst the whole trio (link: https://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/intel_core_i... ). Ryzen 5000's synergy (higher clocks, lower power, higher IPC) sounds like a recipe for disaster for Intel, no? Alder Lake needs to come sooner rather than later if you ask me. Let's just hope Intel is throwing the full weight of their massive workforce of software developers at the problem of Alder Lake's heterogenous architecture because they will certainly need it working smoothly for it to shine.
  • lmcd - Monday, May 17, 2021 - link

    Can we pause to note that MSI delivering bad thermal performance is characteristic of every single one of their laptops, bar none?
  • lmcd - Monday, May 17, 2021 - link

    Like, obviously that doesn't solve all the problems here, but how on earth with all the delays TGL-H(45+) got is this the OEM Intel picked?
  • Spunjji - Tuesday, May 18, 2021 - link

    It's a very odd choice. But then, didn't they use MSI for the original TGL reference platform too? That one actually outperformed most shipping devices, although IIRC it did so by running the fans at 100% 🤷‍♂️
  • lmcd - Tuesday, May 18, 2021 - link

    I put it on twitter also but my opinion is that the Tiger Lake MSI design is actually about the cooling and size that MSI would use for an H series processor normally, such as the MSI Creator.

    This implies that the MSI's thermal overhead is pure luck on Intel's part in that MSI didn't have time to reduce the thermal performance accordingly.
  • Spunjji - Thursday, May 20, 2021 - link

    That would make sense!

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