Power Consumption: AVX-512 Caution

I won’t rehash the full ongoing issue with how companies report power vs TDP in this review – we’ve covered it a number of times before, but in a quick sentence, Intel uses one published value for sustained performance, and an unpublished ‘recommended’ value for turbo performance, the latter of which is routinely ignored by motherboard manufacturers. Most high-end consumer motherboards ignore the sustained value, often 125 W, and allow the CPU to consume as much as it needs with the real limits being the full power consumption at full turbo, the thermals, or the power delivery limitations.

One of the dimensions of this we don’t often talk about is that the power consumption of a processor is always dependent on the actual instructions running through the core.  A core can be ‘100%’ active while sitting around waiting for data from memory or doing simple addition, however a core has multiple ways to run instructions in parallel, with the most complex instructions consuming the most power. This was noticeable in the desktop consumer space when Intel introduced vector extensions, AVX, to its processor design. The concurrent introduction of AVX2, and AVX512, means that running these instructions draws the most power.

AVX-512 comes with its own discussion, because even going into an ‘AVX-512’ mode causes additional issues. Intel’s introduction of AVX-512 on its server processors showcased that in order to remain stable, the core had to reduce the frequency and increase the voltage while also pausing the core to enter the special AVX-512 power mode. This made the advantage of AVX-512 suitably only for strong high-performance server code. But now Intel has enabled AVX-512 across its product line, from notebook to enterprise, with the running AI code faster, and enabling a new use cases. We’re also a couple of generations on from then, and AVX-512 doesn’t get quite the same hit as it did, but it still requires a lot of power.

For our power benchmarks, we’ve taken several tests that represent a real-world compute workload, a strong AVX2 workload, and a strong AVX512 workload.

Starting with the Agisoft power consumption, we’ve truncated it to the first 1200 seconds as after that the graph looks messy. Here we see the following power ratings in the first stage and second stage:

  • Intel Core i9-11900K (1912 sec): 164 W dropping to 135 W
  • Intel Core i7-11700K (1989 sec): 149 W dropping to 121 W
  • Intel Core i5-11600K (2292 sec): 109 W dropping to 96 W
  • AMD Ryzen 7 5800X (1890 sec): 121 W dropping to 96 W

So in this case, the heavy second section of the benchmark, the AMD processor is the lowest power, and quickest to finish. In the more lightly threaded first section, AMD is still saving 25% of the power compared to the big Core i9.

One of the big takeaways from our initial Core i7-11700K review was the power consumption under AVX-512 modes, as well as the high temperatures. Even with the latest microcode updates, both of our Core i9 parts draw lots of power.

The Core i9-11900K in our test peaks up to 296 W, showing temperatures of 104ºC, before coming back down to ~230 W and dropping to 4.5 GHz. The Core i7-11700K is still showing 278 W in our ASUS board, tempeartures of 103ºC, and after the initial spike we see 4.4 GHz at the same ~230 W.

The Core i5-11600K, with fewer cores, gets a respite here. Our peak power numbers are around the 206 W range, with the workload not doing an initial spike and staying around 4.6 GHz. Peak temperatures were at the 82ºC mark, which is very manageable. During AVX2, the i5-11600K was only at 150 W.

Moving to another real world workload, here’s what the power consumption looks like over time for Handbrake 1.3.2 converting a H.264 1080p60 file into a HEVC 4K60 file.

This is showing the full test, and we can see that the higher performance Intel processors do get the job done quicker. However, the AMD Ryzen 7 processor is still the lowest power of them all, and finishes the quickest. By our estimates, the AMD processor is twice as efficient as the Core i9 in this test.

Thermal Hotspots

Given that Rocket Lake seems to peak at 104ºC, and here’s where we get into a discussion about thermal hotspots.

There are a number of ways to report CPU temperature. We can either take the instantaneous value of a singular spot of the silicon while it’s currently going through a high-current density event, like compute, or we can consider the CPU as a whole with all of its thermal sensors. While the overall CPU might accept operating temperatures of 105ºC, individual elements of the core might actually reach 125ºC instantaneously. So what is the correct value, and what is safe?

The cooler we’re using on this test is arguably the best air cooling on the market – a 1.8 kilogram full copper ThermalRight Ultra Extreme, paired with a 170 CFM high static pressure fan from Silverstone. This cooler has been used for Intel’s 10-core and 18-core high-end desktop variants over the years, even the ones with AVX-512, and not skipped a beat. Because we’re seeing 104ºC here, are we failing in some way?

Another issue we’re coming across with new processor technology is the ability to effectively cool a processor. I’m not talking about cooling the processor as a whole, but more for those hot spots of intense current density. We are going to get to a point where can’t remove the thermal energy fast enough, or with this design, we might be there already.

I will point out an interesting fact down this line of thinking though, which might go un-noticed by the rest of the press – Intel has reduced the total vertical height of the new Rocket Lake processors.

The z-height, or total vertical height, of the previous Comet Lake generation was 4.48-4.54 mm. This number was taken from a range of 7 CPUs I had to hand. However, this Rocket Lake processor is over 0.1 mm smaller, at 4.36 mm. The smaller height of the package plus heatspreader could be a small indicator to the required thermal performance, especially if the airgap (filled with solder) between the die and the heatspreader is smaller. If it aids cooling and doesn’t disturb how coolers fit, then great, however at some point in the future we might have to consider different, better, or more efficient ways to remove these thermal hotspots.

Peak Power Comparison

For completeness, here is our peak power consumption graph.

(0-0) Peak Power

Platform Stability: Not Complete

It is worth noting that in our testing we had some issues with platform stability with our Core i9 processor. Personally, across two boards and several BIOS revisions, I would experience BSODs in high memory use cases. Gavin, our motherboard editor, was seeing lockups during game tests with his Core i9 on one motherboard, but it worked perfectly with a second. We’ve heard about issues of other press seeing lockups, with one person going through three motherboards to find stability. Conversations with an OEM showcased they had a number of instability issues running at default settings with their Core i9 processors.

The exact nature of these issues is unknown. One of my systems refused to post with 4x32 GB of memory, only with 2x32 GB of memory. Some of our peers that we’ve spoken to have had zero problems with any of their systems. For us, our Core i7 and Core i5 were absolutely fine. I have a second Core i9 processor here which is going through stability tests as this review goes live, and it seems to be working so far, which might point that it is a silicon/BIOS issue, not a memory issue.

Edit: As I was writing this, the second Core i9 crashed and restarted to desktop.

We spoke to Intel about the problem, and they acknowledged our information, stating:

We are aware of these reports and actively trying to reproduce these issues for further debugging.

Some motherboard vendors are only today putting out updated BIOSes for Intel’s new turbo technology, indicating that (as with most launches) there’s a variety of capability out there. Seeing some of the comments from other press in their reviews today, we’re sure this isn’t an isolated incident; however we do expect this issue to be solved.

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  • SystemsBuilder - Wednesday, March 31, 2021 - link

    and you are a Computer Science graduate? What Linus T. is saying is that AVX-512 is a power hog and he is right about that. Linus T. is not saying that "a couple dozen or so people" are able to program it. Power requirements and programing hardness are 2 different things.
    On the second point, I 100% stand by that any decent Computer Science/Engineering graduate should be able to program AVX-512 effectively (overcoming hardness not power requirements).
    Also, I do program AVX-512 and I 100% stand by what I said. You just need to know what you are doing and vectorize algorithms. If you use the good old sequential algorithms you will not archive anything with AVX-512, but it you vectorize you're classical algorithms you will also achieve >100% benefits in many inner loops in so called mainstream programming. AVX-512 can give you 2x uplift if you know how to utilize both FMA units on port 0+1 and 5 and it's not hard.
    Lastly, with decent negative AVX-512 offsets in BIOS, you can bring down the power utilization to ok levels AND still get 2x improvements in the inner loops (because of vectorized algorithmic improvement).
  • Hifihedgehog - Wednesday, March 31, 2021 - link

    > and you are a Computer Science graduate?

    No, I am a Computer Engineering graduate. Sorry, but you are grasping at straws. Plus you are overcomplicating the obvious to try to be an Intel apologist. Just see this and this. Read it and weep. Intel flopped big time this release:

    https://i.imgur.com/HZVC03T.png

    https://i.imgflip.com/53vqce.jpg
  • SystemsBuilder - Wednesday, March 31, 2021 - link

    So fellow CS/CE grad. I'm not arguing that AVX-512 is a power hog (it is) or that the AVX-512 offsets slows down the rest of the CPU (they do). I am arguing the premise that AVX-512 is supposed to be so incredibly hard to do that only "couple dozen or so people" can do is wrong today - Skylake-X with AVX-512 was launched 2017 for heaven's sake. Surely, I can't be the only CS/CE guy how figured it out by now. I mean really? When Ian wrote what Keller said (and keep on writing it) that that this AVX-512 is sooo hard to do that only a few guys on the planet can do it well, my reaction was "let's see about that". I mean come on guys, really!
  • SystemsBuilder - Wednesday, March 31, 2021 - link

    More specifically Linus is concerned that because you need to use negative offsets to keep the power utilization down when engaging AVX-512 it slows down everything else going on. i.e. AVX-512 power requirements overall CPU impact. The new cores designs (already Cypress Cove maybe? but Sapphire Rapids definitely!) will allow AVX-512 workloads to run at one frequency (with lower negative offsets that for instance Skylake-X) and non AVX-512 workloads at a different frequency on various cores and keep within the power budget. this is ideal.
  • arashi - Wednesday, March 31, 2021 - link

    This belongs in r/ConfidentlyIncorrect and r/IAmVerySmart, anyone who thinks coding for AVX512 PROPERLY is doable by "any CS/CE major graduate worth their salt" would be laughed out of the industry.
  • Hifihedgehog - Wednesday, March 31, 2021 - link

    Exactly. The real reason for the nonsensical wall of text is SystemsBuilder is trying desperately to overexplain things to put lipstick on a pig. And he repeats himself too like I am listening to an automated bot caught in a recursive loop which is quite funny actually.
  • SystemsBuilder - Wednesday, March 31, 2021 - link

    So you are a CE major, have you actually tried to program in AVX 512? If not, try to do a matrix by matrix multiplication of 16x16 FP32 matrices for instance and come back. You'll notice incredible performed increase. It's not lipstick on a pig, it actually is very powerful, especially computing through large volumes of related data SIMD style.
  • Meteor2 - Saturday, April 17, 2021 - link

    Disappointing response. You throw insults but not rebuttals.

    Me thinks SB has a point.
  • SystemsBuilder - Wednesday, March 31, 2021 - link

    really? any you are one CS graduate? have you tried?
  • MS - Tuesday, March 30, 2021 - link

    What the he'll is that supposed to mean that you can't you can't get the frequency at 10 nm and therefore you have to stick with the 14 nm node? That's pure nonsense, AND is at 7 nm and they are getting the target frequencies. Maybe stop spreading the Coolaid and call a spade a spade....

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