Today AMD is finally lifting the lid on its long-awaited desktop Zen2 based APU family. Using the same silicon as in the Ryzen Mobile 4000 family, AMD is pumping it up into 35 W and 65 models in the same AM4 platform that is in use today. There has been strong demand from PC builders to release these chips, which were on the topics of forum conversation all the way back at CES. There’s only one downside to these new processors: you can’t buy them on their own. AMD states that the initial release of Ryzen 4000G hardware is for OEMs like Dell and HP only for their pre-built systems.

The new processors use the same 8-core Zen2 plus 8 compute unit Vega that we saw in Ryzen Mobile 4000 at the beginning of the year, but as with previous APU launches, the frequency and power thermals have been pushed up into more manageable desktop environments. To that end, AMD will be launching hardware in the Ryzen 7, Ryzen 5, and Ryzen 3 product lines at both 65 W and 35 W, all on the AM4 platform.

AMD Ryzen 4000G Series APUs
AnandTech C/T Base
Freq
Turbo
Freq
GPU
CUs
GPU
Freq
PCIe
*
TDP
Ryzen 4000G
Ryzen 7 4700G 8 / 16 3600 4400 8 2100 16+4+4 65 W
Ryzen 7 4700GE 8 / 16 3100 4300 8 2000 16+4+4 35 W
Ryzen 5 4600G 6 / 12 3700 4200 7 1900 16+4+4 65 W
Ryzen 5 4600GE 6 / 12 3300 4200 7 1900 16+4+4 35 W
Ryzen 3 4300G 4 / 8 3800 4000 6 1700 16+4+4 65 W
Ryzen 3 4300GE 4 / 8 3500 4000 6 1700 16+4+4 35 W
Ryzen Pro 4000G
Ryzen 7 Pro 4700G 8 / 16 3600 4400 8 2100 16+4+4 65 W
Ryzen 7 Pro 4750GE 8 / 16 3100 4300 8 2000 16+4+4 35 W
Ryzen 5 Pro 4650G 6 / 12 3700 4200 7 1900 16+4+4 65 W
Ryzen 5 Pro 4650GE 6 / 12 3300 4200 7 1900 16+4+4 35 W
Ryzen 3 Pro 4350G 4 / 8 3800 4000 6 1700 16+4+4 65 W
Ryzen 3 Pro 4350GE 4 / 8 3500 4000 6 1700 16+4+4 35 W
*PCIe lanes on the SoC are listed in GFX+Chipset+Storage

The top processor is the Ryzen 7 4700G, coming in at 65 W TDP with a base frequency of 3.6 GHz and a turbo frequency of 4.4 GHz. It uses all eight compute units for the graphics, running at a mind-numbing 2100 MHz.

At the lower end is the Ryzen 3 4300G, with four cores and eight threads, with a base of 3.8 GHz and a turbo of 4.0 GHz, which should mean that performance is very consistent. This part has six compute units for graphics, running at 1700 MHz.

Every version has a GE counterpart at 35 W, which for the most part reduces the base frequency and TDP only. The exception is the Ryzen 7, where 100 MHz is lost on turbo and 100 MHz is lost on graphics.

All the APUs support DDR4-3200, and have sixteen PCIe 3.0 lanes for add-in cards, as well as four PCIe 3.0 lanes for storage. On the PCIe lanes, the reason this is PCIe 3.0 and not PCIe 4.0 is because the equivalent mobile chip was built with eight PCIe 3.0 lanes for add-in cards, to save on power in a mobile environment. AMD sees these chips being used mostly on their own without a separate discrete graphics card, given that the company already has the Ryzen 3 CPU family for those that want discrete graphics.

At the same time as the Ryzen 4000G APUs, AMD is also launching the Ryzen Pro 4000G versions for the commercial market. These specifications mirror the standard Ryzen counterparts, but fall under AMD’s Pro Technologies feature set, with additional security, manageability, and business ready pillars. This includes full memory encryption and support for DASH management, OS image stability over 18 months, guaranteed processor availability for 24 months, and enhanced QA.

So they are OEM only? What?

Just to be clear, AMD specified OEM and not system integrators (SIs). On our call, AMD clarified that the market for its APUs is skewed very heavily towards the big mass-market prebuilt customers like HP and Dell, rather than custom home builds. The numbers quoted were around 80% of all APU sales end up in these systems, and by working with OEMs only, AMD can also help manage stock levels of the Renoir silicon coming out of the fabs between desktops and notebooks.

What this means is that unless you are choosing to buy a pre-built office-focused business PC, then the only way to get hold of these processors would be through distributors who are selling them piecemeal – AMD is not creating official boxes and bundles with coolers for these processors.

Those pre-built office-focused business PCs are expected to be out shortly. Just in case you control a corporate budget and need a few hundred of them.

Will we ever get Ryzen 4000 APUs for Desktop?

AMD says that they are planning a consumer-grade release of APUs ‘soon’. It was stated in our briefing call that there will be a launch of a future Zen2 APU for the consumer market compatible with 500-series motherboards. The company specifically did not say 400-series, but did clarify that the 4000G series announced today was for 400 and 500 series.

When exactly this launch will come, and what it will be, and what price ranges AMD will be aiming for is unclear. As mentioned, we were discussing Zen 2 based Renoir desktop APUs with vendors back in January, and at this point it certainly feels late to the game. Could AMD be hiding something up its sleeve? A PCIe 4.0 version perhaps (would this require new silicon?) or maybe something up at the 105 W TDP performance level? It really is unclear.

There’s also some new Zen+ APUs

For the lower end of the prebuilt market, AMD is also offering a new set of Zen+ APUs. These are the first desktop parts to carry the Athlon Gold and Athlon Silver branding.

AMD Athlon 3000G Series
AnandTech C/T Base
Freq
Turbo
Freq
GPU
CUs
GPU
Freq
PCIe
*
TDP
Athlon 3000G
Athlon Gold 3150G 4 / 4 ? 3900 3 1100 8+4+4 65 W
Athlon Gold 3150GE 4 / 4 ? 3800 3 1100 8+4+4 35 W
Athlon Silver 3050GE 2 / 4 3400 - 3 1100 4+2+2 35 W
Athlon Pro 3000G
Athlon Gold Pro 3150G 4 / 4 3500 3900 3 1100 8+4+4 65 W
Athlon Gold Pro 3150GE 4 / 4 3300 3800 3 1100 8+4+4 35 W
Athlon Silver Pro 3125GE 2 / 4 3400 - 3 1100 4+2+2 35 W
PCIe lanes on the SoC are listed as GFX+Chipset+Storage

We believe these to be based on the same silicon as the Athlon Gold and Athlon Silver mobile parts. We're still waiting on full details for the 3000G family.

The Final Word: We were told that there will be a reviewers’ guide shared with us. Whether that is for these OEM-only parts, or for something upcoming, we don’t know. But we have our fingers crossed.

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  • GeoffreyA - Wednesday, July 22, 2020 - link

    Exciting stuff. As a happy 2200G user, I've got something nice to dream of now :) Also glad all the models are coming with SMT, as far as I can see. Reply
  • dan_ger - Wednesday, July 22, 2020 - link

    That is a huge jump in frequency, you can almost double the clock speed on an overclock. I have not seen frequency jumps like that for a long time, impressive. Reply
  • dan_ger - Wednesday, July 22, 2020 - link

    I don't agree with your AMD valuation. Covid will be neutral to beneficial to AMD. You are right that small business is getting hurt and as a result tech and online conglomerates are benefiting. More remote operations, telecommuting, cloud, data center etc. Furthermore AMD has a clear path in CPU dominance to early 2022 with Zen 3 and this assumes that Intel gets their 7nm and urarch right. If Intel falters, AMD's dominance could persist longer. In either event, AMD is not standing still. They will have 5nm design coming to meet Intel at 7nm. Additionally, they have a monopoly on consoles AND Big Navi looks like it will compete with NVDA at the high end. I am expecting more market share gains in discreet for AMD. Look what happened to NVDA stock when it went from 6B to 11B. It seems AMD is on a similar trajectory. I certainly would not sell AMD now. Reply
  • TimSyd - Wednesday, July 22, 2020 - link

    Kinda disappointed by Ian's trolling headline.
    He knows full well that DIY versions us regular folk *can* buy are on their way. Plenty of Ian's peers & industry colleagues (Charlie at SemiAcccurate etc) have posted about this & AMD themselves have said the 4000 series APU's for DIY are coming soon. So the clickbait headline is unwelcome, from Anandtech & Ian especially (of course elsewhere on Reddit or Youtube & in those crazy forums, it's de-rigeur)

    Nothing wrong with AMD making some money by prioritizing Si to customers & markets that are worth the most, especially when consoles must be eating a lot of their wafer allocation in readiness for the upcoming release.
    Lisa Su hasn't become *the* highest paid Si valley CEO by setting her priorities just from what the enthusiasts & fanboys want.
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  • paulocoghi - Friday, July 24, 2020 - link

    Charlie, from SemiAccurate, is informing that we may see Ryzen 4000 Desktop APUs later in August. I hope he is right. Reply
  • andrellyra - Friday, July 24, 2020 - link

    wouldn't the mobile version of the APU have just 8 PCIe lanes? Reply
  • Spunjji - Friday, July 24, 2020 - link

    Nope - 8 for a GPU, 4 for NVMe and another 4 for chipset / NVMe. I think there may also be a couple of lanes for WiFi/etc. on top of that. Reply
  • Iketh - Friday, July 24, 2020 - link

    article states maybe a 105w zen 2 renoir.... what on earth for??? clearly the current silicon is limited to ~4.2ghz based on all turbo frequencies, so more power is yielding little to know gains Reply
  • TheJian - Sunday, July 26, 2020 - link

    Shame they went so small. Should be 100mm^2 LARGER, given to gpu side and charge MORE.

    PE on the stock is stupid. As others said, priced in PERFECTION for a good 3yrs or more? I thought we'd see the current price when 128c hits in mass, not now before pricing is higher, no net income to really speak of (yeah, under 200mil /quarter is NOTHING TO SPEAK OF vs. NV/Intel).

    Waiting for crash on many stocks (heck whole market shortly), as dems try to do EVERYTHING possible to kill this economy. Fake corona info (we're all going to die, LOL, nah, .1% or far less), school shutdowns while only 14 kids have died (and can't spread from them), PERIOD, and most of those are fake news also, you get marked corona death if you die with your head chopped off from a wreck DIRECTLY in front of hospital - nope. he probably would have died from corona, so...Get ready for yet MORE people getting shot in the streets etc, as dems will likely try to fake agents doing the killings (they already claimed cops started fires last week), when it was BLM/Antifa. I expect a war zone on all of us, especially if you're in a DEM controlled state (like now I guess...LOL all dem states causing issues), and massive fake ballots mailing too. If you can't win the election steal it I guess? Hilary still hasn't accepted her loss, and they are asking trump yet again if HE will...ROFL. Pot meet kettle. Biden/Pelosi even go so far as to say they'll force-ably remove him (pretty much win or lose they'll try).

    We have masks now, so easy to VOTE IN PERSON everywhere right? No need for 6ft then right? Masks given freely at voting centers. BOOM, no need for fake mail crap without ID's etc. This isn't military mailing where they have a TON of data on said voter and KNOW it is HIM/HER. This is "current resident, hope you vote dem, we'll toss it in the trash at the PO later if you don't"...ROFL. Vote by mail without massive ID proof FIRST is pointless and not needed with masks and 6ft anyway. Even that is fake news, we shut down for NOTHING else ever and half of the deaths could have easily been avoided by PROTECTING the old etc like sweden, and WORKING for the rest. Corona kills a few people yearly now. Just like flu, influenza, pneumonia, etc etc.

    BLM? 7000 die yearly from gunshots by blacks. Cops killed 9 blacks unarmed (who always are fighting them), and 19 whites. Why is this a story? The 7000 dead yearly should be the story. Dem schools flunking 50% of kids and paying 13K yearly for that crap education system, should be the story (not we need more money, we need 100% CHARTER, so we GET our money's worth). If you don't compete for your job, you get 50% failure. Compete (er, uh, charter!), and you get 80%+ success rates, and blacks fighting to get a seat in that school! Kill the teachers unions and schools get better instantly as they can be fired for suckage then :)

    Any school closed should be denied money, no work, no pay. Parents can go where they WORK for PAY, and actually educate their kids. :)

    Can we call this a paper launch? No chips. No launch? I'm ONLY ok with this if the desktop launch later comes with more stuff (features?), since it requires 500 chipset it seems. Or a die with another 100mm^2 gpu side? OK. :) I really hope this is just due to shortage of AMD stuff not a choice to avoid DIY. Why not sell 20% more apu at top dollar? Cherry pick and price higher, or add more die size gpu and again, charge more. I'd pay for a more powerful gpu in certain instances to avoid a gpu/fan noise etc. HTPC build that games for real without discrete, at a special price (higher, because obviously it could affect low-end gpu). Bring it, it will sell. Just don't price it at IRIS pro/plus like levels please ;)
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  • mr_tawan - Friday, August 7, 2020 - link

    I saw these processors listed in some retailer here, although with no price. There are some reviews already as well.

    My guess is some of these retailers act as an OEM but sells parts individually.

    Or may be because I'm not in the US, but in some of the third world country where the APU are in higher demands :).
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