Pretty sure "LogitechFan" is a sockpuppet. The very idea of having a sock on the Anandtech comments is desperately sad, but then so are their posts, so...
I don't know how or why we've suddenly all gone from lauding each other over perf increases to disowning performance increases (in the same power envelope) as pointless. Truly puzzling.
Nobody who cares about video quality is using NVENC or Quicksync. Software video encoding is the only way to go. In most cases these 8 core parts are approaching NVENC and Quicksync in performance anyways.
Oh, also forgot to add that in the enthusiast market AMD is outselling Intel desktop CPUs almost 2:1. Really excelling at making something nobody wants.
Holy delusional fanboy, Batman!!! Zen 2 is dramatically more efficient as far as both power AND thermals than ANYTHING Intel has; with the difference compared to the latest 14nm+++ Skylake derivative nearly on the order of 2x (at least as far as power draw is concerned). 10nm Ice Lake gets things closer, but Zen 2 is still ahead to the point it can pack in 2x the core/thread count in it's max config to boot.
AMD's literally giving you nearly 2x the multi-threaded performance in the exact same 15W ULV power/thermal envelope as Ice Lake, & with notably better single-thread + significantly better iGPU perf thrown in for good measure. I seriously don't know what more you could have been realistically expecting to have ended up so damn disappointed.
> AMD's literally giving you nearly 2x the multi-threaded performance Which I (and most people) don't need. 4 fast cores > 16 shitty cores. Also: "benchmarks that benefit from multiple cores perform better with more cores. Who would have thought?!". Oh, but how about real-life usage? Ah... Oops.
> with notably better single-thread + Citation needed. 4% as per their graphs is literally measurement noise and/or some cherry-picked "benchmark" that favored AMD.
> significantly better iGPU perf Yeah but then you have to install fucking radeon drivers, lol.
Holy shit... I'm going to guess you're an extremely uneducated "gamer". If so, here's a news flash buddy, next gen consoles have 8-cores/16-threads (Zen 2 ones in fact), meaning that's the MINIMUM you'll need to get max performance in next gen titles. So do you still wanna tell me that doubling multi-threaded performance in the same thermal/power envelope is still pointless?
And you are seriously someone who will refuse to install AMD Adrenalin, but then go & voluntarily install the near spyware that is GeForce Experience with a smile on your face? Rofl, oh the hypocrisy *facepalm*...
Maybe stop taking it from Intel in the butt & being a total freaking dumbass for just a second.... You might want to enjoy it.
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Cooe - Monday, January 6, 2020 - link
Rofl, this might be one of the most "pot meet kettle" comments I've ever seen. The hypocrisy here is so thick I can straight up smell it.Spunjji - Tuesday, January 7, 2020 - link
Pretty sure "LogitechFan" is a sockpuppet. The very idea of having a sock on the Anandtech comments is desperately sad, but then so are their posts, so...Jugotta Bichokink - Tuesday, January 7, 2020 - link
Intel is a company that relies on desperate fangirl socks, so yeah.Cinebench is just one metric. If it was the only metric AMD was kicking Intel's sad 5-year-old lunch in, that would be news.
But it's just one of them, and for an Intel fangirl to complain about metric cherry-picking?
HILARIOUS KARMA
Sub31 - Friday, January 10, 2020 - link
I don't know how or why we've suddenly all gone from lauding each other over perf increases to disowning performance increases (in the same power envelope) as pointless. Truly puzzling.hecksagon - Monday, January 6, 2020 - link
Nobody who cares about video quality is using NVENC or Quicksync. Software video encoding is the only way to go. In most cases these 8 core parts are approaching NVENC and Quicksync in performance anyways.hecksagon - Monday, January 6, 2020 - link
Oh, also forgot to add that in the enthusiast market AMD is outselling Intel desktop CPUs almost 2:1. Really excelling at making something nobody wants.Cooe - Monday, January 6, 2020 - link
Holy delusional fanboy, Batman!!! Zen 2 is dramatically more efficient as far as both power AND thermals than ANYTHING Intel has; with the difference compared to the latest 14nm+++ Skylake derivative nearly on the order of 2x (at least as far as power draw is concerned). 10nm Ice Lake gets things closer, but Zen 2 is still ahead to the point it can pack in 2x the core/thread count in it's max config to boot.AMD's literally giving you nearly 2x the multi-threaded performance in the exact same 15W ULV power/thermal envelope as Ice Lake, & with notably better single-thread + significantly better iGPU perf thrown in for good measure. I seriously don't know what more you could have been realistically expecting to have ended up so damn disappointed.
timecop1818 - Monday, January 6, 2020 - link
> AMD's literally giving you nearly 2x the multi-threaded performanceWhich I (and most people) don't need. 4 fast cores > 16 shitty cores. Also: "benchmarks that benefit from multiple cores perform better with more cores. Who would have thought?!". Oh, but how about real-life usage? Ah... Oops.
> with notably better single-thread +
Citation needed. 4% as per their graphs is literally measurement noise and/or some cherry-picked "benchmark" that favored AMD.
> significantly better iGPU perf
Yeah but then you have to install fucking radeon drivers, lol.
Cooe - Monday, January 6, 2020 - link
Holy shit... I'm going to guess you're an extremely uneducated "gamer". If so, here's a news flash buddy, next gen consoles have 8-cores/16-threads (Zen 2 ones in fact), meaning that's the MINIMUM you'll need to get max performance in next gen titles. So do you still wanna tell me that doubling multi-threaded performance in the same thermal/power envelope is still pointless?And you are seriously someone who will refuse to install AMD Adrenalin, but then go & voluntarily install the near spyware that is GeForce Experience with a smile on your face? Rofl, oh the hypocrisy *facepalm*...
Maybe stop taking it from Intel in the butt & being a total freaking dumbass for just a second.... You might want to enjoy it.
LordanSS - Monday, January 6, 2020 - link
I literally manually install my nVidia drivers... won't touch that new GFExperience, not even with a 10feet pole.