Honestly? I mostly like the Surface Book for the display. There are not many devices out there with such a high quality 3:2 panel, let alone devices that I could potentially use for gaming, for photo editing with a stylus, *and* as a touch-screen content consumption tablet.
Yes it is strange, why Microsoft not waiting for this?? Hey!! it is clocked faster than actual Ryzen Mobile, it have two times the cores, faaaaar more IPC and a faster GPU. In average is 3X actual Ryzen Mobile, faster than a Ryzen desktop dropped at 15W and faster than Epyc module......... with only one node step. More or less is done on 5nm but AMD don't know this. Too good to be true?? :)
As Intel has currently a 1.1 GHz 6 core part at 15 watts to compete with a 1.8 GHz 8 core part, AMD has, at least for the moment, become the only choice in laptops. That's where Intel was ahead, so it's an existential threat in my opinion. Of course, in a few months, Intel will have 10nm+ out, but now they will have more work to do catching up.
Are you sure amd is capable to sustain this speed for more than few minutes before dropping at 0.8 Ghz 8 cores??. You know what is their strategy, their old slides are pretty clear. The other strange thing is that suddenly Zen 2 have gained more than 10% in single core performance :), pretty funny he?? To be noticed they have now only 1MB of L3 per core, this is not a good sign for real world performance. Looking at claimed results, this core should be inside the Epyc....but it is not. My suspect there is a lot of marketing at work and a generous reference design that cool a lot of heat.
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Jugotta Bichokink - Tuesday, January 7, 2020 - link
Why a surface? You really love that touchscreen? LolSpunjji - Wednesday, January 8, 2020 - link
Honestly? I mostly like the Surface Book for the display. There are not many devices out there with such a high quality 3:2 panel, let alone devices that I could potentially use for gaming, for photo editing with a stylus, *and* as a touch-screen content consumption tablet.Gondalf - Tuesday, January 7, 2020 - link
Yes it is strange, why Microsoft not waiting for this??Hey!! it is clocked faster than actual Ryzen Mobile, it have two times the cores, faaaaar more IPC and a faster GPU. In average is 3X actual Ryzen Mobile, faster than a Ryzen desktop dropped at 15W and faster than Epyc module......... with only one node step.
More or less is done on 5nm but AMD don't know this. Too good to be true?? :)
Spunjji - Wednesday, January 8, 2020 - link
Reading an attempt at a straw man distraction written by somebody who couldn't tell straw from his own pubic hair is a real treat.quadibloc - Tuesday, January 7, 2020 - link
As Intel has currently a 1.1 GHz 6 core part at 15 watts to compete with a 1.8 GHz 8 core part, AMD has, at least for the moment, become the only choice in laptops. That's where Intel was ahead, so it's an existential threat in my opinion. Of course, in a few months, Intel will have 10nm+ out, but now they will have more work to do catching up.Gondalf - Tuesday, January 7, 2020 - link
Are you sure amd is capable to sustain this speed for more than few minutes before dropping at 0.8 Ghz 8 cores??. You know what is their strategy, their old slides are pretty clear.The other strange thing is that suddenly Zen 2 have gained more than 10% in single core performance :), pretty funny he?? To be noticed they have now only 1MB of L3 per core, this is not a good sign for real world performance.
Looking at claimed results, this core should be inside the Epyc....but it is not.
My suspect there is a lot of marketing at work and a generous reference design that cool a lot of heat.
Jugotta Bichokink - Tuesday, January 7, 2020 - link
Gondalf you are dangerously simple.THIS IS A CPU. IT DOES NOT INCLUDE THE COOLING ENVELOPE OF A BUILT LAPTOP.
Jugotta Bichokink - Tuesday, January 7, 2020 - link
"Looking at claimed results, this core should be inside the Epyc....but it is not."Man, you are just... I'm going to be nice and say nothing. You are nothing!
SolarBear28 - Tuesday, January 7, 2020 - link
Surely the base clock can be maintained at 1.8 GHz while keeping power at 15W. That is, after all, what the base clock is supposed to mean.Zen 2 have gained 10% compared to what?
Total cache per core is around 1.5MB. Intel's 6 core i7 has 2 MB per core. Total cache is about the same. I don't see a problem.
Same TDP as Picasso with twice the performance per watt running Cinebench , why would this have heat issues?
Spunjji - Wednesday, January 8, 2020 - link
"Looking at claimed results, this core should be inside the Epyc....but it is not"It is. It's Zen 2. It released in desktop Ryzen and Epyc first, and it's bludgeoning Intel in both areas. Do try to keep up.