Do Manufacturers Guarantee Turbo Frequencies?

The question: ‘do manufacturers guarantee turbo frequencies?’ seems like it has an obvious answer to a lot of people. I performed a poll on my private twitter, and the voting results (700+) were astonishing.

31% of people said yes, 69% of people said no.

The correct answer is No, Turbo is never guaranteed.

To clarify, we need to define guarantee:

"A formal assurance that certain conditions will be fulfilled - if pertaining to a product, then that product will be repaired or replaced if not the specified quality."

This means that under a guarantee, the manufacturer would be prepared to repair or replace the product if it did not meet that guarantee. By that definition, Turbo is in no way under the guarantee from the manufacturer and does not fall under warranty.

Both AMD and Intel guarantee four things with their hardware: core counts, base frequency, peak power consumption at that base frequency (in essence, the TDP, even though strictly speaking TDP isn’t a measure of power consumption, but it is approximate), and the length of time those other items are guaranteed to work (usually three years in most locales). If you buy a 6 core CPU and only four cores work, you can get it replaced. If that six core CPU does not hit the base frequency under standard operations (standard is defined be Intel and AMD here, usually with a stock cooler, new paste, a clean chassis with active airflow of a minimum rate, and a given ambient temperature), then you can get it replaced.

Turbo, in this instance, is aspirational. We typically talk about things like ‘a 4.4 GHz Turbo frequency’, when technically we should be stating ‘up to 4.4 GHz Turbo frequency’. The ‘up to’ part is just as important as the rest, and the press (me included) is guilty of not mentioning the fact more often. Both Intel and AMD state that their processors under normal conditions should hit the turbo frequency, and both companies actively promote frequency enhancing tools such as aggressive power modes or better turbo profiles, but in no way is any of this actually guaranteed.

Yes, it does kind of suck (that’s the technical term). Both companies market their turbo frequencies loudly, proudly, and sometimes erroneously. Saying something is the ‘first X GHz’ processor only really means something if you can actually get into a position where that frequency is guaranteed. Unscrupulous retailers even put the turbo frequency as the highlight in their marketing material. Trying to explain to the casual user that this turbo frequency, this value that’s plastered everywhere, isn’t actually covered by the warranty, isn’t a good way to encourage them to get a processor.

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  • realbabilu - Sunday, September 22, 2019 - link

    This is motherboard dependent.

    Great , waiting for motherboard shootout benchmark like 90’s Anand did.
  • tommo1982 - Monday, September 23, 2019 - link

    I didn't really bother with turbo frequencies until it became a thing with AMD. I always read reviews of the processors and how they perform in general so the recent news made me confused. I'm unsure what to think of it, still. When I finished your article I came to conclusion that general performance of the processor is more important than frequency advertised. That and I read so many times that Turbo frequency is sustained only for a short period of time, I don't bother with checking it out anymore.
  • Maxiking - Thursday, September 26, 2019 - link

    Very nice PR article, how much did it cost AMD?

    "a minor uproar"

    It was a minor uproar because of poor journalists like you who could not reach the clocks on the box yet did not make any investigation nor pursued the issue unless people were complaining enough or the German overclocker did the video.

    Thanks the poor journalism you exhibit, clocks are still not fixed and the issue persists because you do not cover it.

    So I ask again, how much did AMD pay you to test their products and ignore the obvious issue?

    To reiterate, TURBO FREQUENCIES ARE COVERED BY WARRANTY ARE GUARANTEED in my country and the whole EU for example.

    Again, how much did AMD pay you for the spreading of this misinformation and propaganda?

    Remember bulldozer? their claim of 8 cores?
  • Kishoreshack - Sunday, September 29, 2019 - link

    Been an Anandtech reader for more than 10 years
    this article makes sure I would be tied to such an amazing site
    Very well balanced article
    clearing doubts & misconception
    Thanks Ian Cutress
    Brunette back the podcasts

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