Gaming Results (15W and 25W)

One of the biggest changes to the Ice Lake design is in the integrated graphics – Intel is now giving more focus and more die area to graphics, something it has arguably been neglecting for several years now. With Ice Lake, we move to a Gen11 graphics architecture, which is almost like the previous Gen9.5 but now with added support for variable rate shading (VRS), moving from 24 EUs to 64 EUs, and memory support up from LPDDR3-2133 to LPDDR4X-3733.

World of Tanks: Minimum Settings

World of Tanks: Minimum Settings

World of Tanks is a very CPU driven benchmark, and having the extra frequency of the 25W processor does help here. We're getting a sizeable uplift from Whiskey Lake, due to the extra EUs and memory frequency.

Final Fantasy XV: 720p Standard

Final Fantasy XV: 720p Standard

Our Final Fantasy test seemed to regress in 25W mode, although still within the noise. This test is still GPU bound, so adding the extra TDP to the CPU didn't actually help much. However, comparing to the Whiskey Lake integrated graphics, we've got over a 2x speedup.

Civilization VI: 1080p Ultra

Civilization VI: 1080p Ultra

Similarly with Civilization, with what is normally our 'IGP' settings, we are still GPU limited here.

One of Intel's newest features is Variable Rate Shading.

If developers add the option, soon to be an easy checkbox in Unity and Unreal, the game can decide to control the rate at which it shades pixels, from calculating every pixel down using one result across a 4x4 grid, to save compute power. Currently the only way to test this is with the 3DMark functional demo.

3DMark VRS Test, 1080p

The new VRS test in 3DMark is designed as a feature test to show the potential uplift effect from enabling variable rate shading within a game. In both 15W and 25W modes, the data saw a good uplift, and we seemed to get more out of the 25W mode than the 15W mode.

Synthetic and Legacy Results (15W) Conclusions
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  • Ratman6161 - Wednesday, August 7, 2019 - link

    "Did we really learn something new from this piece? Not really would be my answer."
    Actually I learned something. To me this showed that once Ice Lake systems hit the market, it will be time for me to start looking for a deal on A Whiskey Lake system. We see potential performance increases in some things but not others and the things more interesting to me personally fall into the tests where there isn't much difference.

    Besides, everyone understands this is a pre-release system and much more data will be needed to really make a decision...at least I thought everyone understands. My personal experience with laptops in general has been that how good the cooling performance is is probably the most important factor in real world performance as most of them will thermal throttle long before you get any kind of sustained performance out of them anyway.
  • casperes1996 - Thursday, August 1, 2019 - link

    Don't let comments like this get to you, Ian.

    It was an excellent article, considering the limited time you had with the platform. There will always be people calling fanboyism or the like no matter which company is in focus. You balanced it all as well as you could with the time you had the device for, and it was a great read.
    If anything I'd actually say it sometimes came off as being a bit anti-Intel; Not in terms of their products, but the whole thing with them trying to involve themselves more in how you test their stuff, perhaps to their advantage. Sometimes sounded a bit "Just let me do my job and I'll let you do yours". But I thought that was kinda good ;)
  • eva02langley - Friday, August 2, 2019 - link

    Well, the thing is more about the free advertisement. You are not the only one who went there. Toms did and their testing are downright different from yours. I believe your numbers way more than theirs, however there is a cost of being part of scheme like this.
  • CityBlue - Saturday, August 3, 2019 - link

    > We do our own validation of the platform to remove as much Intel involvement as possible.

    You say that, but it's difficult to believe Anandtech can be trusted when you botched the Ryzen 3 benchmark reviews so so badly and have subsequently been in denial ever since (looking at you, Ryan on reddit).

    You personally have suggested that security isn't important so any performance impact resulting from security mitigations doesn't sound like something you would personally care about, thus playing right into the hands of a firm like Intel.

    So, can you trusted? That would be a big fat "no" from me, I'm afraid.
  • Jorgp2 - Thursday, August 1, 2019 - link

    Lol, this is exactly what qualcomm does.

    Its just a preview, they will do better testing at release.
  • brakdoo - Thursday, August 1, 2019 - link

    Yeah the Qualcomm pieces were problematic too because they could have just released a few benchmarks (and they did) to give us a rough understanding of the performance.

    The real power consumption and performance (especially therm. throttled) came later in real world tests.

    It was not until Andrei compared the 855 to the Kirin 980 when we saw the Kirin to be slightly faster and more efficient in pure CPU tests.

    At least Qualcomm made real statements about release dates and those chips being really high volume. We still don't know whether or not Ice Lake will be in just a few laptops.
  • Andrei Frumusanu - Thursday, August 1, 2019 - link

    The 855 preview contained almost our whole test suite, with just the thermal GPU tests missing due to lack of time.

    > It was not until Andrei compared the 855 to the Kirin 980 when we saw the Kirin to be slightly faster and more efficient in pure CPU tests.

    This was included in the preview, and not later:

    https://www.anandtech.com/show/13786/snapdragon-85...

    The S10 review essentially had no changes on those numbers.
  • Valantar - Saturday, August 3, 2019 - link

    brakdoo: your stance here is nonsense. You're arguing that it's _more_ problematic to accept special access to do your own independent testing than it is to simply accept a company's marketing statements in good faith? That makes _zero_ sense, and is certainly not how journalism is supposed to work. Articles like this are very valuable as they give interested readers information that can be trusted to a certain degree (even if the test platform isn't what they're going to be buying in the future), unlike marketing statements which always have some spin.

    Ian: Excellent article, and good job getting all that work done in just eight hours. Keep up the good work.
  • FunBunny2 - Thursday, August 1, 2019 - link

    "Now 5G is just sub-6 and the only important part is massive MIMO"

    cute. I've been, ever since 5G was a twinkle in the eye of whoever, that mmWave 5G was, and always will be, vaporware. getting it to work in the real world, when engineers and scientists have known for decades how microwave (and near) propagates, is a non-starter. the telecom BS has reached ever new highs.
  • Eletriarnation - Thursday, August 1, 2019 - link

    This seems like a good thing to me - we're getting useful information earlier, even if it is limited in scope. It's not like AMD offered the same and you turned them down. Keep up the good work!

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