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For all of our benchmarks we used Doom 3's built in timedemo functionality. To benchmark Doom 3 yourself simply do the following while in Doom 3:

Bring up the console by hitting: CTRL + ALT + ~
Type: timedemo demo1

Then hit return and Doom 3's timedemo will run. The average frame rate for the demo will be reported after the run is complete. We ran all of our tests three times, disregarding the first score and taking the higher of the remaining two scores. We disregarded the first score because the first time the demo runs there is a lot of pausing as the demo gets cached, the remaining two runs are generally within 1% of one another.

 Performance Test Configuration
Processor(s):

Socket-939 & Socket-754 Athlon 64/64 FX CPUs
Socket-754 & Socket-A Sempron CPUs
Socket-A Athlon XP CPUs
Socket-478 Pentium 4 & Celeron CPUs

RAM: 2 x 512Mb OCZ 3500 Platinum Ltd (2:3:3:7)
Hard Drives Seagate 120GB 7200 RPM (8MB Buffer)
Video AGP & IDE Bus Master Drivers Intel Chipset Driver 6.0.0.1014
NVIDIA nForce Drivers: 4.27
Video Card(s): NVIDIA GeForce 6800 Ultra
ATI Radeon 9800 Pro
Video Drivers: ATI Catalyst 4.7
NVIDIA ForceWare 61.77
Operating System(s): Windows XP Professional SP1
Motherboards: Intel 875P
NVIDIA nForce3
NVIDIA nForce2 Ultra
How does CPU Speed Impact Graphics Performance? Prescott vs. Northwood
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  • Anemone - Thursday, August 5, 2004 - link

    I suggest you look at the low and average framerates for the EE @ 1600x1200. From memory I recall on HardOCP was that the AMD chips had a higher top end and a lower low end, making the average, whereas the P4's had high and low ends not so far away from their average.

    AMD64's fly, but at higher res's 1280 up to 1600, the difference is a few fps, and P4's seem to not fly as fast, but also not bottom out as bad in the super heavy scenes.

    While I'm torn on the issue of which platform to go to, that is something I noticed.
  • DigitalDivine - Thursday, August 5, 2004 - link

    Shinei, hardocp did not use apples to apples comparisons.
  • dmxlite - Thursday, August 5, 2004 - link

    "When tested at 1600 and real gameplay, Athlon 64 falls like a brick, as shown in the "Official Doom 3 hardware guide" at HardOCP."

    Yes, that must be the reason why in the conclusion they say "AMD came out ahead in DOOM 3 performance with the strongest CPU in our tests, the Athlon 64 FX-53 processor," and why they chose the stock FX to be in their [H]ard|OCP Ultimate DOOM 3 System and an overclocked A64 3000+ to be in their [H]ard|OCP Ultimate Enthusiast DOOM 3 System.
  • nlr_2000 - Wednesday, August 4, 2004 - link

    It's called an on die memory controller ;)
  • Staples - Wednesday, August 4, 2004 - link

    Interesting how P4s were always top dog in Q3 but now with D3, it is the opposite.
  • Shinei - Wednesday, August 4, 2004 - link

    I don't know about you, T8000, but I can't complain about my (underclocked) 64MB Ti4200 and 3200+ XP combination. It drags in some areas (9fps as a low, 60 as a high, average gameplay flow is around 20; settings are 10x7 medium quality), but it's definitely playable in singleplayer, with very little mouse lag.
    So, for my Athlon XP to be performing fairly well with 2-year-old, underclocked hardware, I'm willing to say that HOCP is probably making things retarded for AMD by changing settings or something. I find it very hard to believe that the vastly superior Athlon 64s (compared to my Athlon XP) would falter so heavily in gameplay when my own processor does not.
  • T8000 - Wednesday, August 4, 2004 - link

    I think you cannot say a CPU is better because it produces more frames in situations where it is hardly stressed, like lower resolutions and timedemos. Furthermore, I think most people want to play at an acceptable framerate with as much detail as possible, so testing a GF6800U only at 1280 and without playing the game, is not realistic.

    When tested at 1600 and real gameplay, Athlon 64 falls like a brick, as shown in the "Official Doom 3 hardware guide" at HardOCP. Only the overclocked Athlon FX could do slightly more then the P4EE at stock settings.
  • flexy - Wednesday, August 4, 2004 - link

    >>>
    Whether the top-performing FX53 is worth the $811 price is up to you,
    >>>

    The answer is of course: NO

    Neither is the PIV EE worth its price :)
  • flexy - Wednesday, August 4, 2004 - link

    the most important info for me is that it's actually nonsense to wait for socket 939...or useless to spend more money for 1mb cache.

    So...socket 754 is even better/faster and cheaper. And the 512kb cache are plenty too for the A64.

    This is very helpful info in regards to upgrading my system soon :)
  • Pumpkinierre - Wednesday, August 4, 2004 - link

    Nice article Anand- strange set of results. I'd like to see the benchmark for a 2.4c at 3200MHz with same memory latency settings. If it is memory latency as the a64 results suggest then the Prescott should be lower or even beaten by N'wood. If it is L1 cache size then the EE result should be lower.

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