The Exynos 9810 - Introducing Meerkat

The Exynos 9810 made a lot of noise this year as S.LSI made astounding claims of up to 2x better single-threaded performance and a 40% uplift in multi-threaded performance. We exclusively covered the first public disclosure of the microarchitecture later in January and showed that Samsung’s performance claims were not farfetched at all. Before we got back to the CPU core, let’s see what else the Exynos 9810 brings to the table.

Samsung Exynos SoCs Specifications
SoC Exynos 9810 Exynos 8895
CPU 4x Exynos M3
1c@2.7, 2c@2.3, 3-4c@1.79 GHz
4x 512KB L2
4096KB L3

4x Cortex-A55 @ 1.79 GHz
No L2
512KB L3
4x Exynos M2 @ 2.314 GHz
2048KB L2

4x Cortex-A53 @ 1.690GHz
512KB L2
GPU Mali G72MP18 Mali G71MP20
@ 546MHz
Memory
Controller
4x 16-bit CH
LPDDR4x @ 1794MHz
4x 16-bit CH
LPDDR4x @ 1794MHz

28.7GB/s B/W
Media 10bit 4K120 encode & decode
H.265/HEVC, H.264, VP9
4K120 encode & decode
H.265/HEVC, H.264, VP9
Modem Shannon Integrated LTE
(Category 18/13)

DL = 1200 Mbps
6x20MHz CA, 256-QAM

UL = 200 Mbps
2x20MHz CA, 256-QAM
Shannon 355 Integrated LTE
(Category 16/13)

DL = 1050 Mbps
5x20MHz CA, 256-QAM

UL = 150 Mbps
2x20MHz CA, 64-QAM
ISP Rear: 24MP
Front: 24MP
Dual: 16MP+16MP
Rear: 28MP
Front: 28MP
Mfc.
Process
Samsung
10nm LPP
Samsung
10nm LPE
 

At the heart of the Exynos 9810 we see four Exynos M3 CPU cores, which run at thread-count dependent maximum frequency. This ranges from up to 2.7GHz in single-threaded scenarios, to 2.3GHz in dual-core mode, and 1.79GHz in full quad-core mode.

Alongside the big performance CPUs we also see Samsung’s introduction of Cortex-A55 cores in a quad-core configuration running at up to 1.79GHz (down from the MWC units, which were running at up to 1.9GHz). The interesting thing to note is that unlike the Snapdragon 845, the A55 cores in the Exynos are in their own cluster and not shared with the M3’s.

The GPU is a new Mali G72MP18 running at up to 572MHz. The GPU configuration was a surprise here as not only did Samsung opt to go for a smaller configuration than last year’s MP20, but the clock frequency also hasn’t increased much from the Exynos 8895’s 546MHz.

On paper, the Exynos 9810 has a stronger modem than the Snapdragon 845 as it supports up to 6x carrier aggregation vs the S845’s 5xCA. The upload streams also support 256-QAM which allows for 33% higher upload speeds compared to the Exynos 8895 and Snapdragon’s modems.


Exynos 9810 Floor Plan. Image Credit TechInsights

TechInsights really delighted us this time around as they also released a die shot of the Exynos 9810 last week. The 9810 comes in at 118.94mm², which is 14% bigger than the 8895’s 103.64mm². Qualcomm seems to have an edge in total die size and we don’t have to look very closely to notice why.

At 20.23mm² the Exynos M3 complex is absolutely massive compared to other mobile SoC CPUs. At 3.46mm² for the core and accompanying L2 the Meerkat core is over twice as big as the 1.57mm² of the A75+L2 in the Snapdragon 845, granted that the latter has half the L2 cache. Meerkat indeed almost matches Apple’s Monsoon cores in the A11 which come in at 2.68mm² - but only if one takes into account the L2 cache of the M3 for which I roughly estimate 0.88mm². Apple also has a slight density advantage due to TSMC’s 10FF manufacturing node.

Nevertheless, at a total of 22.1mm² for both clusters Samsung has thrown down a lot of silicon for the CPU complexes, far more than Apple’s 14.48mm² and Qualcomm’s 11.39mm².

An interesting aspect we can see in the die shot is the way that Samsung arranges the L3. Indeed we reached out again to ARM for clarification on if the DSU allows third-party cores to be used, and contrary to we had been told last year, ARM doesn’t enable third-party cores to be connected. This means that the L3 we see here on the M3’s are of Samsung’s own design. At 4MB, the cache is quite big, but as mentioned, the layout is unlike anything we’ve seen before as it looks like not only does Samsung distribute the L3 SRAM banks in a row/column, but the L3 arbitration logic and L3 tags are also distributed among the banks alongside each M3 core.

Image Credit TechInsights

Looking closer at the core we see two L2 banks (512KB total) along with their tag buffers on the left side. At the top middle we see what is likely the 64KB L1D cache with the load/store engine. On the right side, likely on the bottom, we see the L1I cache as well as other front-end related memories. Unfortunately Samsung’s physical implementation here is a sea of gates and it’s hard to make out the individual CPU engines.

The Cortex-A55 cluster looks quite similar to the Exynos 8895’s A53 cluster – this is due to the lack of per-core L2’s and only a shared 512KB L3 that essentially acts as a shared L2. The performance degradation of the A55s not having L2’s is offset somewhat by the fact that the L3 is run at the same frequencies as the cores – eliminating the need for asynchronous bridges between the cores and the cache and thus reducing the L3 cache latency compared to a normal DSU configuration.

Finally the last interesting take-away from the die shot is the GPU. The Mali G72MP18 comes in at a total of 24.53mm² which is smaller than last year’s >~32mm² behemoth based on the Mali G71MP20. Here it’s clear just much of an advantage Qualcomm has as the Adreno 630 with its 10.69mm² is outright tiny compared to the Mali and even has a significant lead even over Apple’s A11 GPU which comes at 15.28mm².

2.9GHz.. 2.7GHz .. 2.3GHz ... 1.79GHz?? Which is it?

One of the bigger discussion points about the Exynos 9810 was its clock frequency. Samsung had initially announced a peak clock frequency of 2.9GHz but immediately that seemed unlikely given S.LSI’s history of backing down on their initial frequency claims.

Looking at the voltage tables of the Exynos 9810 points out quite a wide range of voltages for the M3 cores, but it’s the far end that seems quite problematic. To actually reach the initially advertised state of 2.9GHz (2860MHz), it takes an extremely high voltage of 1213mV. Backing down to 2704MHz with which the Galaxy S9 is released ends up with an already drastic decrease of 100mV. Historically Samsung has always had quite high voltages at the far end of the frequency tables as it seems they optimise the physical implementation for leakage and power, which in turn requires higher voltages to reach high frequencies.

When looking at the power curves correlated with our traditional integer power virus we see that there’s an immense increase in power consumption at the higher frequencies. Indeed going from 2.3GHz to 2.9GHz would have doubled power usage, and even 2.7GHz comes at a steep power price. Given that power usage scales roughly along the lines of voltage cubed, the SoC's efficiency suffers with the increased frequency. The good news here is that Samsung’s efficiency curve is quite steep and linear, that means backing down on frequency should see significant efficiency gains.

Samsung’s decision to limit 2+ core frequencies makes sense in the context of thermal constraints. Even if a CPU core is very efficient at its peak performance, it’s just physically not possible to run multiple cores at peak performance as the SoC just lacks the required thermal dissipation. It’s also important to emphasise this difference between power usage and efficiency: This is no Snapdragon 810 situation where we have high power but with lacking performance. Total energy usage of the M3 should thus be equal to a lower performance core which uses less power.

The only comment I’d like to add here is that I think Samsung would have done a lot better if the M3 cores had been split into a 2+2 configuration with separate frequency and voltage planes. This is something we'll get back to in the battery life section of the review.

I’ve had a look through Samsung’s scheduler and DVFS mechanisms which controls the switching between the 1/2/3/4 core modes and generally I’ve been unimpressed by the implementation. Samsung had made use of hot-plugging to force thread migrations between the cores which is an inefficient way of implementing the required mechanism. The scheduler is also tuned extremely conservatively when it comes to scaling up performance, also something we’ll see the effects of in the system performance benchmarks.

Lastly, I noticed that the commercial unit we acquired had quite different DVFS settings that I was unable to reproduce the excellent memory latency scores I had measured on the launch event devices at MWC. This means that the memory performance is going to be less than I had anticipated, and metrics such as full random access latency actually saw a degradation compared to the Exynos 8895.

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  • lopri - Monday, March 26, 2018 - link

    Oh and there is no Fraps on Android or (gasp) iOS as far as I know. One that actually works.
  • jjj - Tuesday, March 27, 2018 - link

    Anything is better than synthetic.
    What happens in this review is a great example because judgements are made about how perf and power are balanced, without any testing in appropriate workloads. The SoC needs to be tuned for actual workloads, and aside from anecdotal evidence, there is no data. AT loves to say that it's data driven but if you don't have the relevant data.... You can't determine the color of the sky by licking a wall.
    Synthetic benchmarks are a best effort from a developer but they can never match real world apps. PCMark for example, some phones with 8xA53 at 2GHz can score over 5k points so almost as much as the Exynos here.
    It's been 10 years and nobody makes any effort to review phones. Even battery life, it's either synthetic or browsing with nothing else going on, utterly unrealistic.
  • ZolaIII - Tuesday, March 27, 2018 - link

    You can profile individual apps & use them while doing so but the results will vary to much even if your usage is minor like for instance video player & same video. Simply Android platformom has to much back processes and noise for reliable measuring especially if those are lite tasks.
  • techconc - Tuesday, April 17, 2018 - link

    Do you understand the sub tests in something like Geekbench for example? Are you going to claim that they are not representative of real world functions that your phone uses on a regular basis? Screaming no synthetic benchmarks like a lunatic without offering a better and generally accepted alternative is not helpful.
  • peevee - Friday, April 6, 2018 - link

    Firefox. With an adblocker installed.
  • name99 - Tuesday, March 27, 2018 - link

    Oh FFS.
    Different benchmarks test DIFFERENT THINGS. What you call a synthetic benchmark is a great test of very specific parts of the CPU or memory system.
    If you don't care about details, don't freaking look at the synthetic benchmarks and go straight to whatever whole system benchmark it is that floats your boat.

    But don't throw a hissy fit because the guys who ARE interested in **CPU** performance don't want to see numbers that are fscked up by the OS behavior, the performance of the flash, or whatever other random nonsense gets it to confuse the issue.
  • lilmoe - Wednesday, March 28, 2018 - link

    Of course, synthetics at constant max load have never reflected real world performance of mobile devices. We know this. What I like about these deep dives is the fact that you can evaluate the data yourself and make educated assumptions about what one might expect. Here's a rough summary of what I believe is applicable to both chips in the S9 with the current firmware:

    - Exynos is the faster chip. But it's handicapped for feature and performance parity with the SD. Optimizations in Oreo might have contributed to how such a conservative scheduler passed QC.
    - Snapdragon will be snappier (no pun intended) in certain workloads and general app load times.
    - Exynos will last longer in games, video playback and streaming.
    - Snapdragon might last longer in web browsing.
    - Snapdragon Will last longer in video and voice calls in unoptimized messaging apps.

    These are examples I thought of quickly. It's funny, but I also watch some youtubers doing their "tests". Combine these tests with the data presented here and there you go.
  • eastcoast_pete - Monday, March 26, 2018 - link

    For me, the winner is - the one that didn't compete here: the S8+ (with the 835 chipset). Seriously. With the S9/9+ now out, an S8 or S8+ can be had for hundreds of $ less than the corresponding S9 or S9+ , and that makes the S8 or S8+ right now the best value for money among higher-end Sammys. To boot, nobody will notice it's last year's model, as the S8 and S9 look almost identical. IMO, the main upside for an S9+ is the camera, especially the video capabilities, but, at what a price -ouch!

    Processors: Progress - What progress? The 845 did a bit better than the 835, mostly by being clocked higher (and eating a bit more power), while the new M3-based Exynos was really disappointing. I am also disappointed with Qualcomm's 845, and here is why: the 845 is manufactured in the (supposedly) more energy efficient 10 nm LPP (Samsung's newest and hottest), so - where are the power savings? I can't help but wonder how an 835 manufactured in 10 nm LPP would have fared? As is, the 835 mostly holds it's own where it counts (real life situations), and is far from being outclassed by the 845 (or the M3 Exynos, but that is kicking a chip when it's down).
    Lastly, regarding Andrei's comment on Samsung's software: right on. Samsung has pretty consistently made the best or among the best Android smartphones out there - I have owned a few of them. But, while Samsung's hardware generally get's a A or A- , the software that Samsung loads (burdens) their phones with has ranged between annoying to debilitating; apparently, that carelessness on the software side extends all the way down to low-level programming this time - not good.
    Several years ago and for a short time, one could buy a Samsung phone with stock Android from Google directly. While I realize that won't happen again any time soon, I would love to see an S8+ (835) with just plain-vanilla Android 8.1 (or 9?), no skin, no bloatware. I might even buy one, before they're gone.
  • BigDH01 - Monday, March 26, 2018 - link

    The perf/W graph is confusing to me as it's measured in fps/W. This breaks down into (frames/sec)/(J/s). Why not just frames/joule?
  • Andrei Frumusanu - Monday, March 26, 2018 - link

    Because Watts are important to note as a thermal indicator. It gives more information than frames/J.

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