Intel Coffee Lake Conclusion

It has been a long time coming, but we finally have something bigger than a quad-core processor on Intel’s mainstream platform. Fundamentally it might be the same architecture as the processors preceded it, but after a decade of quad-core Intel parts, it comes as a welcome improvement. Intel sampled us the Core i7-8700K and the Core i5-8400 for this set of initial launch testing, with the goal of offering more high performance cores at more mainstream price points without having to invest in the company's more expensive and otherwise more complex HEDT platforms.

  

The Core i7-8700K

The Core i7-8700K in our testing was designed to be the new halo mainstream processor: many cores and the highest frequencies seen on an Intel part out of the box, with the option of overclocking thrown in. With a peak turbo frequency of 4.7 GHz, in benchmarks that could be stripped down to a single core with no other work going on, the i7-8700K took home the bacon.

The problem here is the same problem we’ve seen with big core parts and Windows 10, however: these large processors can only take so much before having to move threads around, to keep both the frequency high and the energy density low. All it takes is for a minor internal OS blip and single-threaded performance begins to diminish. Windows 10 famously kicks in a few unwanted instruction streams when you are not looking, and as a result the CPU fires up another CPU core and drops to a lower turbo bin. Consequently the average single thread performance seen on the 8700K might be equal or lower than that of the previous generation. It becomes an infuriating problem to debug as a reviewer.

Nonetheless, when software needs to take advantage of the cores, the Core i7-8700K will run through at an all-core turbo frequency of 4.3 GHz, consuming about 86W in the process. The jump up from a quad-core to a hex-core for only a $20 difference will be immediately noticeable in the software that can take advantage of it.

What is interesting to note is that the Core i7-8700K essentially kills the short-lived Kaby Lake-X parts on the X299 high-end desktop platform. Again, for a few extra dollars on the 8700K, a user can save over $100 on the motherboard, get more cores and more performance, and not have the hassle of dealing with a hybrid X299 platform. It does make me wonder why Intel released Kaby Lake-X in the first place, if they knew just how short lived they would be.

When comparing against the Core i7-7800X, a high-end desktop part at a similar price and with the same core count but a lower frequency, it really comes down to what the user needs. Performance easily favors the Core i7-8700K, however that cannot replace the quad-channel memory (up to 128GB) and the 28 PCIe lanes that the Core i7-7800X can support. In most circumstances, especially gaming, the Core i7-8700K will win out.

Intel’s 8th Generation CPUs: The Ones To Watch

Intel also sampled us the Core i5-8400, showing that six-core processors can cost less than $200. This processor, along with the Core i3-8100, will form the new backbone of general computing when using Intel components: the Core i3-8100 replaces old Core i5 processors for around $120, and enthusiasts who simply want a little more oomph can go with the Core i5-8400 at $190 at retail. It almost comes across as adding 50% cost for adding 50% performance. Personally I think the Core i3-8100, if made widely available, will be a top-selling processor for casual desktop users and gamers who were previously looking for a good performance-per-dollar part.

There is one other comparison to note: the Core i5-8600K and the Core i7-8700. These two parts are $50 apart, however the Core i7-8700 has double the threads, +10% raw frequency, 33% more L3 cache, and 1/3 lower TDP. The Core i5-8600K has overclocking, however going up to the i7 ensures stability, and should offer more raw performance. It will be interesting to get these two in to test, and especially to see if the TDP rating makes a significant performance difference.

Today’s Review Takeaway

We finally have six-core processors on Intel’s mainstream platform, which has driven up the core counts (and frequencies) of the company's low and mid-range processors. For anyone looking at building a system in the last 6-12 months, they should be able to build an equivalent with the latest-generation processor for $50-$100 less. Or spend the same and get a few more cores to play with. The last time we had this situation was a decade ago, and hopefully it won’t take another decade to happen again.

Dedicated reviews for the processors (with more gaming tests) are on the cards. Stay tuned!

CPU Gaming Performance: Grand Theft Auto
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  • risa2000 - Friday, October 6, 2017 - link

    This actually makes sense. I wonder how Ian explains (even to himself) that additional 2 new cores in i7-8700K do not push the power envelope at all compared to i7-7700K. Is it because in Anandtech benchmark 8700K uses only 4 cores? Or uses 6 but throttles them down to stay in power limit?
  • sonny73n - Friday, October 6, 2017 - link

    I was also puzzled about some test results in this review but after reading thru the comment section, I conclude that this is indeed his worst review to date. He mentioned that he only had 3 days for this review. Maybe this is the reason.
  • sonny73n - Friday, October 6, 2017 - link

    I forgot to mention his lack of AMD comparisons among little mistakes here and there.
  • DanNeely - Friday, October 6, 2017 - link

    At a guess Anands temp test isn't using the bigger AVX sizes because at full load the hugely wide calculations use a lot more power than anything else; to the extend that by default they have a negative clock speed offset of several hundred MHz. I'm not sure how or if MCT shenanigans affect the AVX clock speed.
  • Ian Cutress - Saturday, October 7, 2017 - link

    You'd be surprised at how aggressively Intel is binning. We've said for a long while that Intel never pushes its chips to the limits in DVFS or frequency (like AMD), so if they were willing to make higher SKUs and commit to their usual warranty, it should be an easy enough task.

    Our power benchmark loads up all threads.
  • Ian Cutress - Saturday, October 7, 2017 - link

    Is Paul/Igor testing at-wall power consumption at stock? That might add a bunch. Even the lower end CPUs seem out of whack there. Our power numbers are just for the CPU, not the at wall.

    Our numbers are derived from the internal calibration tools that the processor uses to determine its own power P-states, which in effect is directly related to the turbo. We run a P95 workload during our power run, and pull the data from the internal tools after 30 seconds of full load, which is long enough to hit peak power without hitting any thermal issues or PL2/PL3 states.

    There seems to be a lot of boards that screw around with multi-core turbo this generation, which may also lead to higher power consumption numbers.
  • MingoDynasty - Thursday, October 5, 2017 - link

    There is a typo in the article. 7700K has a TDP of 91W, not 95W.
  • Ian Cutress - Saturday, October 7, 2017 - link

    Intel played shenanigans with the 7700W TDP. They gave it as one value in the first briefings, then switched to the other just before launch, then switched back again after launch.
  • mapesdhs - Tuesday, October 10, 2017 - link

    I know it's only a typo, but I still had to laugh at "7700W TDP". ;D

    #EditingForATForums
  • W1nTry - Thursday, October 5, 2017 - link

    There also seems to be a price change to the 1800x and 1700x which are as much as 100USD lower than what's reflected on the charts. I think that would factor in notably.

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