Comparing Skylake-S and Skylake-X/SP Performance Clock-for-Clock

If you’ve read through the full review up to this point (and kudos), there should be three things that stick in the back of your mind about the new Skylake-SP cores: Cache, Mesh and AVX512. These are the three main features that separate the consumer grade Skylake-S core from this new core, and all three can have an impact in clock-for-clock performance. Even though the Skylake-S and the Skylake-SP are not competing in the same markets, it is still poignant to gather how much the changes affect the regular benchmark suite.

For this test, we took the Skylake-S based Core i5-6600 and the Skylake-SP based Core i9-7900X and ran them both with only 4 cores, no hyperthreading, and 3 GHz on all cores with no Turbo active. Both CPUs were run in high performance modes in the OS to restrict any time-to-idle, so it is worth noting here that we are not measuring power. This is just raw throughput.

Both of these cores support different DRAM frequencies, however: the i5-6600 lists DDR4-2133 as its maximum supported frequency, whereas the i9-7900X will run at DDR4-2400 at 2DPC. I queried a few colleagues as to what I should do here – technically the memory support is an extended element of the microarchitecture, and the caches/uncore/untile will be running at different frequencies, so how much of the system support should be chipped away for parity. The general consensus was to test with the supported frequencies, given this is how the parts ship.

For this analysis, each test was broken down in two ways: what sort of benchmark (single thread, multi-thread, mixed) and what category of benchmark (web, office, encode).

 

For the single threaded tests, results were generally positive. Kraken enjoyed the L2, and Dolphin emulation had a good gain as well. The legacy tests did not fair that great: 3DPM v1 has false sharing, which is likely taking a hit due to the increased L2 latency.

On the multithreaded tests, the big winner here was Corona. Corona is a high-performance renderer for Autodesk 3ds Max, showing that the larger L2 does a good job with its code base. The step back was in Handbrake – our testing does not implement any AVX512 code, but the L3 victim cache might be at play here over the L3 inclusive cache in SKL-S.

The mixed results are surprising: these tests vary with ST and MT parts to their computation, some being cache sensitive as well. The big outlier here is the compile test, indicating that the Skylake-SP might not be (clock for clock) a great compilation core. This is a result we can trace back to the L3 again, being a smaller non-inclusive cache. In our results database, we can see similar results when comparing a Ryzen 7 1700X, an 8-core 95W CPU with 16MB of L3 victim cache, is easily beaten by a Core i7-7700T, with 4 cores at 35W but has 8MB of inclusive L3 cache.

If we treat each of these tests with equal weighting, the overall result will offer a +0.5% gain to the new Skylake-SP core, which is with the margin of error. Nothing too much to be concerned about for most users (except perhaps people who compile all day), although again, these two cores are not in chips that directly compete. The 10-core SKL-SP chip still does the business on compiling:

Office: Chromium Compile (v56)

If all these changes (minus AVX512) offer a +0.5% gain over the standard Skylake-S core, then one question worth asking is what was the point? The answer is usually simple, and I suspect involves scaling (moving to chips with more cores), but also customer related. Intel’s big money comes from the enterprise, and no doubt some of Intel’s internal metrics (as well as customer requests) point to a sizeable chunk of enterprise compute being L2 size limited. I’ll be looking forward to Johan’s review on the enterprise side when the time comes.

Benchmarking Performance: CPU Legacy Tests Intel Skylake-X Core i9-7900X, i7-7820X and i7-7800X Conclusion
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  • Gothmoth - Monday, June 19, 2017 - link

    shoody performance.. what are you talking about? stupid games?
    bios updates will fix that.

    could not care less about games. but the intels are faster.. no way around it.
    more pricey but faster.
  • Flying Aardvark - Monday, June 19, 2017 - link

    You nailed it. Between the temps and power draw, to jump on this lineup is really silly. I like the 1700 for a small air cooled mITX setup. If I moved to anything else I'd dump all this stuff in the middle and go straight to Threadripper.

    If you're going for thread count, do it right and get 16C/32T. Or just stick to a nice cool and quiet R5 or R7.
  • cocochanel - Monday, June 19, 2017 - link

    How do they get stomped ? AMD power consumption is about half of that of Intel's.
    Can you please explain ?
  • Yongsta - Monday, June 19, 2017 - link

    Wow, comparing $1000+ high end enthusiast desktop parts vs $500 and lower consumer desktop parts. Wait for Threadripper and Ryzen7 right now offers a lot more bang for the buck (if you get the 1700 and overclock it).
  • tarqsharq - Monday, June 19, 2017 - link

    Those multi-threaded benchmarks are going to get really ugly for Intel in a few months I think, especially from a bang for buck perspective.
  • T1beriu - Monday, June 19, 2017 - link

    Wrong name: derba8ur

    Real name: der8auer

    Page 6.
  • Ryan Smith - Monday, June 19, 2017 - link

    Thanks!
  • jjj - Monday, June 19, 2017 - link

    A lot of talk about the mesh but not testing it, at least the basic memory BW, latency and scaling.
    No power numbers at all? No OC and temps....
    Why focus on perf and ignore all else when perf is more or less a known quantity and the unanswered questions are elsewhere.

    For Intel you list all Turbo flavors, for AMD you forget XFR when comparing SKUs.
  • Luckz - Monday, June 19, 2017 - link

    http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-core-i9-... has you covered re the mesh
  • jjj - Monday, June 19, 2017 - link

    PCPer tries to look at it too.

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