AMD A10-7800 Review: Testing the A10 65W Kaveri
by Ian Cutress on July 31, 2014 8:00 AM ESTGaming and Synthetics on Processor Graphics
The faster processor graphics become, the more of the low end graphics market is consumed - if the integrated graphics are better than a $50 discrete GPU, there ends up being no reason to buy a discrete GPU. This might seem a little odd for AMD, who also have a discrete GPU business. The counter argument is that integrated graphics is only comparable to low-end GPUs, which are historically low margin parts and thus might encourage users to invest in larger GPUs, especially as demands in resolution and graphical eye-candy increase. The compute side is also important, and the homologation of discrete to integrated graphics architectures helps software optimised for one also be accelerated on the other.
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CompuBench 1.5
CompuBench is a new addition to our CPU benchmark suite, and as such we have only tested it on the following processors. The software uses OpenCL commands to process parallel information for a range of tests, and we use the flow management and particle simulation benchmarks here.
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The simple answer is this: for anything related to processor graphics, AMD's Kaveri wins hands down and by a large margin in the same power envelope for cheaper.
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bsim500 - Thursday, July 31, 2014 - link
Precisely. vs an i3-4330, an A10 7800 = 20% higher TDP + 10-20% lower performance even in quad-core optimised apps (Handbrake, etc) and up to 47% slower per core. It's better at games, assuming you "enjoy" playing PC games like it's still 1997 (1280 x 1024 5:4 aspect ratio + low quality textures + no-AA), which is about as useful as those old THG's benchmarks testing every game at 640x480 to "prove a point". The number of gamers looking to buy a modern CPU with a 19" 5:4 monitor is "ultra niche" to put it politely (unless that res was chosen precisely because it cannot handle smooth gaming at 1600 x 900 / 1920 x 1080)...Seriously people, if you're playing any modern games, just end the "brave masochism" and buy a 2nd hand budget discrete card. I've saw 4x 7790's going for under $40 on EBay the other day and 1x 7850 for not much more. That small premium is worth it regardless of CPU for a +150-200% boost in fps and the ability to actually play with 21st century resolutions...
Anonymous Blowhard - Thursday, July 31, 2014 - link
Both the XB1/PS4 are struggling to get anywhere beyond 792p/900p and 30fps so IMO it's a fair comparison to them.That's about the only space I can see Kaveri making any sense, in the extremely-small-form-factor boxes designed to sit under a TV unobtrusively. Board $75, memory $75, chip $150, HDD $50, case and PSU $50 ... comes out nicely to the $400 mark for a "complete system" (still needs KB/M/OS) that would be able to game about as well as the current-gen consoles and still be a PC when it needs to be.
Though frankly I'd rather the vastly improved performance at the same price point by allowing space for a dGPU and building a 750K or G3220 system with a 260X.
Morawka - Thursday, July 31, 2014 - link
xbox one and ps4 soc has over double the SP's, Cache, and die size than this part, and much more cores. It can do 1080p just fine, but developers are prioritizing high polygon and high res textures over 60 fps gaming.tomsworkshop - Friday, August 1, 2014 - link
Unless you absolutely need fast, single threaded CPU performance, the AMD Kaveri APU still offer the most balance computing experience.frozentundra123456 - Thursday, July 31, 2014 - link
Would have been nice to have seen gaming results with some of the three games included in the free bundle, as well as some more demanding games. Also no cpu test results from a low end i5, which is only about 30 or 40 dollars more than the A10 and would have made the cpu performance look even worse.Really, unless you are using some application that uses HSA or open CL, or trying to build a SFF gaming box without a discrete card, dont see much place for this processor. The price is also still to high. Should be a 120.00 at the most.
meacupla - Thursday, July 31, 2014 - link
I just checked newegg today, but I haven't seen the A6-7400k being listed, since it's supposed release in feb.Might as well buy a Pentium AE and discreet video card for the asking price of an A10.
Essence_of_War - Thursday, July 31, 2014 - link
Ian,I was surprised that there were no platform power consumption benchmarks, was there a reason for not doing/including those? I'd like to see what kind of real-world power savings you pick up from 95W TDP 7850k -> 65W TDP 7800.
Boogaloo - Thursday, July 31, 2014 - link
Seriously, that's the first thing I looked for. I don't care what the number on the box says as much as the actual consumption.zodiacsoulmate - Thursday, July 31, 2014 - link
Yea me tooalacard - Thursday, July 31, 2014 - link
If i recall correctly they completely stopped adding power consumption numbers around the time ivy bridge came out, and in every single cpu article a few people ask for them and in every single cpu article those people get totally ignored.My view is someone at intel is putting pressure on anand, and until i will believe it until i hear otherwise.
Ian, time to set the record straight buddy.