Final Words

As mentioned in our test setup, the benchmark results in this preliminary article are only a small fraction of our normal coverage. Due to other commitments we were unable to run every test on all comparison systems, but we have the other Athlon and Sempron APUs as well as comparable Intel counterparts coming in for review.

The poignant place to start with the final analysis is AMD’s claim of ‘Quad Core for Less’. In this statement alone, they are not wrong. Intel cannot provide a socketed quad core processor for less than $36 (Sempron 3850). The cheapest all-in-one desktop quad-core system from Intel equips the Celeron J1900 onto a motherboard for $92, which is exactly where AMD sit with the top-end Kabini based Athlon 5350 with a motherboard. One of the issues to consider at this point however is that Intel offers several dual core options (non-Atom) around this $40-$60 price point, and in many cases the IPC and CPU speed advantage of these cores is greater than that provided by Kabini, particularly in single threaded applications. The only downsides to this solution are the power consumption is higher, and the motherboards are more expensive. For a competitive socketed Intel dual core, a motherboard plus CPU can be in the region of $110-$120 at 35W-55W.

The big upside and selling point from the AM1 Kabini platform should be upgradeability. If a user buys an AM1 platform now, they should be able to upgrade it in the future. While AMD has not yet confirmed if Beema is coming to the socketed platform, the roadmaps suggest that the laptop sockets are remaining consistent from Kabini to Beema. This should imply that if Beema gets a socketed version, it should also remain based on AM1/FS1b.

If we compare single threaded performance between Kabini and our J1800 test system, the benchmarks are almost even between the two, particularly when it comes to synthetics such as Cinebench, but falls behind on emulation such as the Dolphin Benchmark and 3DPM. The integrated graphics of the Kabini pull ahead when it comes to gaming, despite the single channel memory interface.

AMD Athlon 5350 vs. Intel Celeron J1800
Single Threaded
  Athlon 5350 Celeron J1800
Cinebench R10 1967 1917
Cinebench R11.5 0.51 0.49
Dolphin Benchmark 40.4 38.02
3DPM 53.29 69.20

When placing Kabini against any Intel Ivy Bridge socketed processor, the increased IPC and frequency pushes the system above the Kabini, in exchange for more power and a more expensive system overall. If we compare the Kabini single-threaded results to those of the Celeron G465, a Sandy Bridge based single core CPU at 1.9 GHz, the Celeron does pull ahead on the majority, but fails miserably in the graphical benchmark suite.

AMD Athlon 5350 vs. Intel Celeron G465
Single Threaded
  Athlon 5350 Celeron G465
Cinebench R10 1967 2975
Cinebench R11.5 0.51 0.73
Dolphin Benchmark 40.4 38.8
3DPM 53.29 59.98

Does it seem particularly odd that a modern Kabini architecture at 2 GHz cannot keep up with a 3 year old Sandy Bridge processor at 1.9 GHz at our simple benchmarks?  AMD is leveraging on the fact that much of what we do on a computer as a casual user can leverage the fixed function units of the graphics center of the APU:

AMD’s key in all of this is leveraging the GPU. For non-GPU intensive tasks, on paper, the J1900 for $92 and 10W TDP would seem to be the choice if upgradability is not a concern. The remit of AM1 and Kabini could be extended if motherboard manufacturers decided to use those extra PCIe lanes. Consider an AM1 with controllers to make a nice routing system (4x NIC) or something based around storage (SATA controllers and hubs). But because Kabini is also a cost play for AMD at the low-end desktop segment, margins are going to be ultra-tight for motherboard manufacturers and I do not imagine that as much effort will be put into making innovative products as the rest of their product range on other sockets.

In order for the upgradability angle to work, AMD need to keep the sockets around for at least two generations. AM1 comes late in Kabini’s life cycle, given that Beema on the mobile side is due out later in 2014. It would make sense for AMD to release Beema desktop parts, but the big question there is when. AMD could launch new processors on day 1 of Beema, or further into the life cycle. I would imagine that depends on what the competition does. AMD does have that advantage of having an upgradeable platform before Intel; however Intel may see the market differently. It is a hard one to judge.

Stay tuned for our full benchmark suite on the other AMD Kabini APUs.

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  • TheinsanegamerN - Monday, April 14, 2014 - link

    Why doesnt anyone make a mini itx boardthat uses the laptop fusion APUs, like the a10-5750m? those only draw 10-15w more power, but have dual channel memory controllers, are much more powerful overall, and are still pretty cheap,. the kabinis are just to slow, but the high end fusions are too expensive now.
  • tyaty1 - Thursday, May 1, 2014 - link



    You can unervolt/undecvock a 6600k just as well.
  • sheh - Friday, April 18, 2014 - link

    No noise, power, temperature figures?
  • unseen1980 - Wednesday, July 16, 2014 - link

    My overclocked 5350 is not performing that bad http://devacron.com/supercharged-amd-athlon-5350/
  • TheFriz - Monday, October 19, 2015 - link

    I had an E-machine whose MB died. At first I was going to install an older P4 single core MB/CPU, but the performance just wasn't enough for the online game my cust. just had to play. Fry's had a MSI AM1I MB on closeout, and a AMD 5350 on special. So for under $40 had a replacement for the E-machine. Win 7 worked noticeably better, and the video was plenty fast. Plenty of USB ports for the printer & scanner. MB had PS-2 ports, so didn't have to throw away the KB & mouse. MB didn't have any PCI slots, just a PCI-Express slot for video card, which I tried, but the on board video was just as good as the 256 meg card I had. MB dropped in without a hitch.
    Only 2 SATA ports, this made cloning the hard drive a nuisance. Thanks for USB DVD-RW's.
    Just for grins, tried Mint and Puppy Linux. Was really snappy, and the online game played on Mint. Win. 10 probably would have worked, but I quit while I was ahead.
  • LikeClockwork64 - Monday, June 5, 2017 - link

    The problem with this review is the modern content you are trying to run. This processor can wreck old school content. A little $150 PC with this processor could do things that a $1000 from the mid 2000s would struggle with.

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