AMD Kaveri Review: A8-7600 and A10-7850K Tested
by Ian Cutress & Rahul Garg on January 14, 2014 8:00 AM ESTIntegrated GPU Performance: Sleeping Dogs
Sleeping Dogs is a benchmarking wet dream – a highly complex benchmark that can bring the toughest setup and high resolutions down into single figures. Having an extreme SSAO setting can do that, but at the right settings Sleeping Dogs is highly playable and enjoyable. We run the basic benchmark program laid out in the Adrenaline benchmark tool, and their three default settings of Performance (1280x1024, Low), Quality (1680x1050, Medium/High) and Xtreme (1920x1080, Maximum) noting down the average frame rates and the minimum frame rates.
Sleeping Dogs, Performance Settings
All the AMD APUs tested for this review manage to go above 30 FPS for Sleeping Dogs, with the top end APU nudging at the door of 60 FPS average.
Sleeping Dogs, Quality Settings
The GCN based Kaveri take the top two IGP spots, and Iris Pro is moving down the list by comparison.
Sleeping Dogs, Xtreme Settings
Iris Pro struggles a lot at 1080p in Sleeping Dogs.
Integrated GPU Performance: Company of Heroes 2
The final gaming benchmark is another humdinger. Company of Heroes 2 also can bring the house down, even at very basic benchmark settings. To get an average 30 FPS at any settings using integrated graphics is a challenge, let alone a minimum frame rate of 30 FPS. For this benchmark I use modified versions of Ryan’s batch files more suited for integrated graphics: 1280x1024 on minimum; 1680x1050 on Low and 1920x1080 on Medium.
Company of Heroes 2, Performance Settings
COH2 is demanding enough that even at 1280x1024 and low settings, no platform we tested today can hit 30 FPS average. The 95W Kaveri part does however outshine Richland by almost 25%.
Company of Heroes 2, Quality Settings
Company of Heroes 2, Xtreme Settings
With COH2 extreme settings, the Intel solutions are moving up the minimum FPS ranks to beat AMD.
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jasonelmore - Tuesday, January 14, 2014 - link
I really wish these were launching in BGA GDDR5 Laptop/Mini ITX Packages.jaydee - Tuesday, January 14, 2014 - link
Pretty much what I was thinking as well. There are two mini-ITX FM2+ motherboards available on newegg, niether are "thin", and neither have DisplayPort. AMD's opportunity here is to market it's 45W Kaveri as the best CPU/GPU for the price in a small package. They NEED to get outside of the typical ATX, micro-ATX, mini-ATX box and into SFF, have all the ports that everyone wants, be creative with packaging and configurations (like GDDR5). They will never win a war with Intel in the traditional form-factor PCs, which is a rapidly shrinking market anyways.takeship - Tuesday, January 14, 2014 - link
Agreed. Any build not restricted to half height GPUs is better off going with a cheap intel cpu & discrete card. AMD really should be targeting ultra SFF type builds where Iris Pro is thermally limited, and a dGPU isn't an option.rhx123 - Tuesday, January 14, 2014 - link
GDDR5 7750's are available half height and at a decent price point, so even in a Low Profile machine a cheap Intel + 7750 is a better option. That's what I'm running anyway. Passively cooled i3 never reaches above 65c and the Saphire 7750 Low Profile is pretty quiet at idle.Mopar63 - Tuesday, January 14, 2014 - link
The last paragraph of this article shows someone that GETS IT, where Kaveri and the APU design in general is heading.nissangtr786 - Tuesday, January 14, 2014 - link
I can't believe how right I was, I was saying i3 4130 cpu performance and 2400-2500 3dmark11 gpu performance similar to my gt650m in my laptop. Funnily enough my laptop with i5 3210m at 2.9ghz gt650m with screen takes 87w, if I had an i3 4130 it would take about 92w lets say so it is about right. I am more shocked how spot on I was.HammerStrike - Tuesday, January 14, 2014 - link
The entire Anand reader base congratulates you on your deep insight and prophetic powers of deduction.nathanddrews - Tuesday, January 14, 2014 - link
I, for one, welcome our new nissangtr786 overlord.Zorba - Tuesday, January 14, 2014 - link
It would have been nice to see some non-integrated chips added to the benchmarks like an FX-6300. Ever since the APUs came out, it seems no reviews actually compare high-end iGPU vs moderate dGPU and CPU. Looking at the price, you could get a decent CPU+GPU for the cost of the A10-7850K, so it would be nice to see that as an option.R3MF - Tuesday, January 14, 2014 - link
"do any AnandTech readers have an interest in an even higher end APU with substantially more graphics horsepower?"Yes, and No.
I do want a higher-end APU, but I'd like to see one with four CPU modules and 256 shaders:
47% of the kaveri die space is GPU
http://www.extremetech.com/wp-conten...d-to-intel....
If you consider that roughly 20% is uncore, that leaves roughly 33% as CPU.
Give or take, 8 shader cores is fifty percent larger than 4 cpu cores.
You could double that cpu portion to 66%, and still leave 14% for shader cores.
Make the total die size just 10% bigger and you have an 8 cpu core APU with 4 HSA enabled shader cores ready to grind through FPU work. pretty much die-size neutral.