The GeForce GTX 660 Ti Review, Feat. EVGA, Zotac, and Gigabyte
by Ryan Smith on August 16, 2012 9:00 AM ESTThe Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
Bethesda's epic sword & magic game The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim is our RPG of choice for benchmarking. It's altogether a good CPU benchmark thanks to its complex scripting and AI, but it also can end up pushing a large number of fairly complex models and effects at once, especially with the addition of the high resolution texture pack.
For every Portal 2 you have a Skyrim, it seems. At 1920 the GTX 660 Ti actually does well for itself here, besting the 7900 series, but we know from experience that this is a CPU limited resolution. Cranking things up to 2560 and Ultra quality sends the GTX 660 Ti through the floor in a very bad way, pushing it well below even the 7870, never mind the 7900 series.
Altogether the GTX 660 Ti achieves about 80% of the performance of the GTX 670, making this another game that is hurt badly by the loss of a ROP block and memory bandwidth. At the same time the GTX 670 is the first NVIDIA card fast enough to compete with the 7950, so the GTX 660 Ti came into this benchmark with unfavorable odds. 68fps is more than playable, but hardcore Skyrim players are going to want to stick to cards with more memory bandwidth. At best, the bright spot for NVIDIA is that the GTX 660 Ti is nearly 100% faster than the GTX 560 Ti, a remarkable improvement, but also one being fueled by the meager 1GB of VRAM the latter has.
As for our factory overclocked cards, this is another case of Zotac leading the pack. Its memory overclock is exactly what’s needed to counter the GTX 660 Ti’s lack of memory bandwidth, which helps it easily clear EVGA and Gigabyte’s cards.
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Nfarce - Thursday, August 16, 2012 - link
The GTX 680 is 20% higher in performance than the 660Ti but it comes at a lofty 67% higher price tag. The 670 is just 10% faster but still comes at a 33% price premium. I was upset after dropping 5 Benjamins on an EVGA 680 Superclocked when the 670 came out. I should have waited on THAT card and saved a hundred. Now this card is out and two of these in SLI will slaughter my 680 by a 35% margin for just another 20% in cost (according to Guru3D's SLI tests). Just damn on my timing and decisions. Methinks I'm selling the 680 for a $50 loss and get two of these for $600. Sure beats the original plan of spending $1,000 in a 680 SLI setup.CeriseCogburn - Sunday, August 19, 2012 - link
This place and Tom's very conveniently left out the 680 in all the charts but made biased assured that the 7970 was in every single one of them.TheJian - Monday, August 20, 2012 - link
Another 680 at newegg is $499 (lots of choices). Two 680's will smoke the two 660's for $100 less. Since you already own one ;) If you buy two of either, I hope you're going to run them at 5760x1200 (3 monitors or 3840x1200? two monitors?). Wasted power otherwise. 1920x1200 is already 100fps+ in almost everything on a GTX 680.But sorry about you jumping early :) That's the price any of us pay for being first on the block to have the latest toys :) Also note, you can turn down both 680's and have a silent seriously butt kicking machine until you actually need the power. No heat or noise until you actually need it. Let's face it, two 680's is a LOT of freaking performance.
Congrats if you've got an extra $500 laying around in these times :) Might want to wait for labor day specials though ;)
xKrNMBoYx - Thursday, August 16, 2012 - link
Is that a typo or is the Zotac GTX 660 Ti AMP! memory clock 600 MHz fasterRyan Smith - Thursday, August 16, 2012 - link
That's not a typo. They are offering a factory memory overclock; the only such vendor to do so according to the list I have.Jaguar36 - Thursday, August 16, 2012 - link
I'd love to see SC2 come back, particularly with the new Arcade games. Some of them can easily bring even a top card to its knees. The final battle of a Desert Strike game will crush even the best cards.TheJian - Tuesday, August 21, 2012 - link
Nah, I'm sure people would whine because it's another victory for Nvidia at 1920x1200 and below (heck I think above also). They could have benched it as before but Ryan probably wanted to leave it out :) He might have had to make a conclusion then, even at 2560x1600... ;)http://www.anandtech.com/show/6025/radeon-hd-7970-...
Note that article is from 6/22/2012. and they used it again here:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6096/evga-geforce-gt...
7/22/2012...
You see, at 1920x1200 ULTRA + 4xMSAA the GTX670 already scores 121.2 vs. 108.3 for the 7970GE (7970 only gets 99, and the 7950 gets 88.2fps). So you would have the GTX 660 TI smoking the 7970Ghz edition. That wouldn't look too good when it's supposed to be competing against the 7850/7950...LOL. The GTX 670 even beats the 7970GHZ edition in the 2% market share 2560x1600 also. So it may have looked pretty bad against the 660 here also. It would have made his 2560x1600 digs and conclusion even worse and hard to even argue there. Ryan was smart here...Just not quite smart enough if you look at the big picture of evidence.
Understand why they won't bench SC2 again now? Why not run the last version patch that works fine? Did 1.51 not work too (released 8th? a week ago from review date). Instead he keeps in Warhead from 2008 and an engine from 2007 that was only used in 7 games vs. the much more TAXING Crysis 2 (not 1) with DX11 patch and Ultra res patch which turns on a crapload of stuff like:hardware tessellation, soft shadows with variable penumbra, improved water rendering, particle motion blur and shadowing, Parallax Occlusion Mapping, full-resolution High Dynamic Range motion blur, & hardware-based occlusion culling.
"can it run crysis?"...Wrong question, can it run crysis 2! :) I still think it would be close or a loss for NV though with 660. It would be a close call, probably a wash...But that wouldn't help ryan either :) Hence the 2008 game.
CeriseCogburn - Thursday, August 23, 2012 - link
This place for these vidcards is goners man. Good job.Stas - Thursday, August 16, 2012 - link
Disappointed. Was hoping to see it match 7950 to drive the prices down... But it actually loses to 7950. Let alone o/c potential. Ugh... keep waiting.TheJian - Tuesday, August 21, 2012 - link
I'm not even going to waste my time with this BS comment. But see my response to Ryan's lame excuse over 2560x1600 for all the details you SHOULD have seen in his review (and some that he SHOULD have put IN the review). It only one ONE game @1920x1200. In my response to ryan I prove you can't run at 2560x1600 and stay above 30fps.Nice try though. :) Slower my butt.