Civilization V

Our final game, Civilization 5, gives us an interesting look at things that other RTSes cannot match, with a much weaker focus on shading in the game world, and a much greater focus on creating the geometry needed to bring such a world to life. In doing so it uses a slew of DirectX 11 technologies, including tessellation for said geometry, driver command lists for reducing CPU overhead, and compute shaders for on-the-fly texture decompression.

As we saw in our 7970 review, Tahiti’s performance under Civ V is quite interesting—it’s well ahead of the 6000 series, more so than we would have expected. The 7950 continues this trend, keeping it relatively competitive with the GTX 580, trailing by only 5% at 2560. AMD has continued to stay mum on why their Civilization V performance on Tahiti is so good, and in light of the 14% gap between the 7970 and 7950, it looks like shader performance—particularly compute shader performance—seems to be the deciding factor. Meanwhile the factory overclocked XFX and Sapphire cards once more tilt the results in the 7950’s favor, with their performance turning the tables on the GTX 580 to take a 4-5% lead.

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  • SlyNine - Tuesday, January 31, 2012 - link

    I think it's you that has been sleeping. You're comparing EBay prices for god sakes. We are talking about new releases.

    The 5870 released 2 1/2 years ago at 379$. It was 2x as fast as the 4870.

    When the 4870 released it cost what, 300$ in mid 2008. It was over 2x as fast as the 3870.

    How about the amazing 9700pro at around 400$, In some cases being 4X faster then the 4600TI.

    This is perhaps a step up from the to the likes of the 2900XT or 5800ultra. But both of those had some rocking competition to deal with. Like the 8800GTX and the 9700pro.

    If you think this 30% better performance is worth 580$ then you have no concept of value.
  • Phate- - Tuesday, January 31, 2012 - link

    It took you long enough to notice. Better to go and have this discussion in the comments of the HD6970 review.
  • Galidou - Tuesday, January 31, 2012 - link

    Because it's next gen, performs better for the same price and overclocks probably WAY better plus maybe a chance to mod it to 7970? Is that enough?
  • SlyNine - Tuesday, January 31, 2012 - link

    Its not better performance for the same price. This time the price has scaled with performance.

    Normally when a new GPU gen releases its much better performance at the same price as the previous kings release.

    Look at the 9700pro, 8800GTX, 5870. Those were great cards for the time. The 7970 is just, Eh. Not bad enough to be considered a 2900XT or a 5800 Ultra. But at least those 2 cards had much better competition.
  • bhima - Tuesday, January 31, 2012 - link

    Actually, AMD's prices for these cards are SO bad, most people will just wait or buy older tech. Hell at least Intel's Sandy Bridge i5-2500K came out at a reasonable $215 which really isn't that high for the performance you get from it... in fact, there is no other CPU at the same price that even comes close, nor was there a CPU last year for the same price that even comes close. Here, AMD is pricing themselves out of the market.
  • mdlam - Tuesday, January 31, 2012 - link

    Right, and their egregious pricing mistake is why all their cards are selling out since launch. Because all of AMD's business MBA's and experts are no match for your idea of "a good deal"

    Maybe you've noticed that things are usually more expensive at launch because of hype, and the fact that you have the fastest card makes pricing irrelevant. Well hell whatever, you didn't even notice that Sandy bridge 2500k opened up at $260-270 dollars at launch, what's the point in taking this further.
  • Dribble - Tuesday, January 31, 2012 - link

    I noticed that when the 5870 and 5850 came out they blew away the competition and were relatively cheap. What was the 5850 price when it came out - about half of the 7950? Yet the performance leap over previous gen for 5850 was much larger then for 7950. That's why everyone is a bit disappointed.
  • gibsnium - Tuesday, January 31, 2012 - link


    The 2500k launched that the same price it is today; bought one from newegg at 219$ at launch.
  • Master_shake_ - Tuesday, January 31, 2012 - link

    doesn't anyone else remember when the 8800 ultra was released and Nvidia threw a thousand dollar price tag on it???

    how short are your memories??
  • mdlam - Tuesday, January 31, 2012 - link

    I remember it can barely run crysis

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