Toshiba Satellite L645D: Mobile AMD at 3GHz
by Dustin Sklavos on March 9, 2011 3:20 AM ESTStill Not Enough to Game
At this point you should be expecting these results: the HD 4200/4250 just isn't powerful enough to run modern games at 768p. That said, reviewing the L645D gives us an opportunity to at least gauge how much CPU power can affect gaming performance with the HD 4200/4250 as well as pad out our results for two recent bench inductees: Mafia II and Metro 2033.
At 768p the GPU is too heavily taxed for any improvement in CPU performance to pick up slack; the only game that shows any improvement is the notoriously CPU-limited StarCraft II; everything else performs basically on par. Notice how NVIDIA's dismal GeForce 310M, the subject of endless ire among AnandTech staff, still offers a substantial improvement. I've said it before and I'll say it again (many times no doubt): Llano can't get here soon enough.
These are all recent titles, of course, and if you go back several years you can certainly find older games that will run fine on HD 4250. Jarred is working on a roundup of sorts to pit AMD's Brazos, HD 4225, and HD 4250 against Intel's GMA 4500MHD, HD Graphics, and HD Graphics 3000 with a suite of older/less demanding games. Generally speaking, you'll need low to medium detail with titles from around 2006, or if you want high details you'll need to go back to circa 2003. Stay tuned for that article....
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ArKritz - Wednesday, March 9, 2011 - link
I'm looking forward to a very different Toshiba: The Portege R830. If they've managed to get the noise level down (from the R630), or at least stable, and they've kept the anti-glare, I NEED THAT LAPTOP.Please, please, please don't refrain from reviewing it even if Toshiba also makes bad laptops.
Hrel - Wednesday, March 9, 2011 - link
1366x768 screen... done, right there. No need to read further, not interested.700 bucks with the inclusion of blu-ray? Please, keep your useless blu-ray drive give me a useable screen and drop that price down some. This isn't 700 dollar hardware, 500 tops given the performance and already outdated parts.
RamarC - Wednesday, March 9, 2011 - link
i understand why 1366x768 came to be (16:9), but i don't understand why it's practically the only alternative. where did 1280x800 go? and1600x900 is next-to-impossible to find without spending $1K.Althernai - Wednesday, March 9, 2011 - link
Most of the arguments in favor of this laptop seem to boil down to "it's only $619," but that is actually not that cheap nowadays. For example, HP's new ProBook 4430s (also 14" form factor, but with Sandy Bridge, a matte display and Professional rather than Home Premium Windows) is only $579. I guess you could make the argument "it's only $619 and it comes with a Blue Ray drive," but the notebook is pretty lousy in most other ways so it's probably not worth it unless you really want Blue Ray.alent1234 - Wednesday, March 9, 2011 - link
some people live with their computers and watch all their movies on their computers.laptops are a niche market where you try to make products for everyone's lifestyle. if you're a non-gamer and want something to watch your blu-ray collection on the road this is a good deal
it's not like the old days where you need a supercomputer to push HD video. a cell phone will do it these days
JarredWalton - Wednesday, March 9, 2011 - link
@RamarC: Keep in mind that the HP 4330S uses an i3-2310M (2.1GHz with no Turbo). Hyper-Threading will still put it ahead of the P660 in some performance benchmarks, but I'm not sure pure single-threaded performance will be one of them. Granted, the HD 3000 IGP is about twice as fast as the HD 4250 (at least when it all works properly, which is about 90% of the time), but while $579 isn't bad it's also not the greatest when you factor in everything else.Blu-ray combo drives for laptops are still over $100 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N8... 640GB 5400RPM vs. 320GB 7200RPM is also about $30 more for the Toshiba drive (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N8... compared to http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N8... So add $130 for comparison and you're talking about $710 versus $620. But you're right: the HP is probably still better for many simply because it will have better battery life, better build quality, and none of the glossy crap.
strikeback03 - Wednesday, March 9, 2011 - link
Is there a version of the Toshiba available without the Blu-Ray drive but all else the same? Because I can't see that being a major selling point for a lot of the budget market, given the listed HP plus $30 to match hard drives vs this Toshiba I'd think the majority of people would be better off with the HP for the same money.ImSpartacus - Wednesday, March 9, 2011 - link
I'm not sure how to interpret this comment. Is it a sentence? I'm definitely not an English major, so I don't know."I've griped about this before but it bears repeating: glossy plastic photographs reasonably well and that's about it, and using it on the keyboard is a horrendous idea."
What exactly is being said?
7Enigma - Wednesday, March 9, 2011 - link
What Dustin is saying is that glossy plastic looks good in photos (ie on a website, in a review article, on a sales circular), but in practice it's awful due to all the reflections and glare. And putting it on a keyboard where it's going to reflect is even worse since it is very close to the screen and much larger in area than the normal areas of complaint (wristpad for instance).Shadowmaster625 - Wednesday, March 9, 2011 - link
"I have complained about this in the past. Glossy black plastic only looks good to the people in the marketing department. Everyone else hates it. It definately should not be used on the keyboard."