Intel Core i9-13900K and i5-13600K Review: Raptor Lake Brings More Bite
by Gavin Bonshor on October 20, 2022 9:00 AM ESTGaming Performance: 1080p
Moving along, here's a look at a more balanced gaming scenario, running games at 1080p with maximum image quality.
Civilization VI
World of Tanks
Borderlands 3
Grand Theft Auto V
Red Dead Redemption 2
F1 2022
Hitman 3
Total War: Warhammer 3
Cyberpunk 2077
The 1920 x 1080p resolution is still popular with users (even I still game at 1080p), and looking at our results with our AMD Radeon RX 6950 XT graphics card, the 13th Gen Core series processors are highly competitive. In some cases, AMD's Ryzen 7 5800X3D with 96 MB of 3D V-Cache makes for a great value in gaming, even if it's not really on par with Ryzen 7000 or Intel's 13th Gen in compute performance.
There are certainly trade-offs depending on the title on whether the game favors AMD or Intel, but the key thing to take is, things are competitive, especially at 1080p gaming.
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m53 - Thursday, October 20, 2022 - link
PCs are idle (or used for light browsing, reading bews, watching youtube or a movie, etc.) most of the time. Intel idles at around 12W due to E cores while AMD idles at around 45W which will make the energy consumption 4x. Replyt.s - Thursday, October 20, 2022 - link
idle around 45w? sources? My 5600G idle at 11W. others, around 7 s/d 17W. Replytitaniumrock - Thursday, October 20, 2022 - link
here is the source link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNmpVvTUkJE&li... Replyt.s - Friday, October 21, 2022 - link
And where it states the AMD vs Intel watt vs watt? ReplyWrs - Friday, October 21, 2022 - link
A 5600g is a monolithic chip, just like the Intels. A 7600x or 7950x is a multi-chip module, though, with 2 or 3 modules, and the IOD idle is very substantial now with all the PCIe5 lanes. Bottom line Zen 4 is more efficient when doing major work, courtesy of being one process generation ahead, but Raptor Lake and Alder Lake idle lower. If you want low idle with Zen4, wait for the SoC variants like your 5600g. Replytygrus - Saturday, October 22, 2022 - link
They don't run constantly with at maximum power consumption in all workloads. They use less while gaming or more integer & less FP/AVX. Highest usage probably when they have a performance lead over the other. AMD can run at lower power limits & loose a few % in many cases. Replyneblogai - Thursday, October 20, 2022 - link
I was hoping for Ryzen 7000X iGPU benchmarks too. There are no proper comparisons of them vs Intel's 32EU iGPUs on the internet. Replynandnandnand - Thursday, October 20, 2022 - link
ETA Prime 7700X iGPU tests (no comparisons):https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4cwNn4kI6M (gaming)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnSVPM78ZaQ (emulation)
7600X vs. 12900 vs. 5700G
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/09/ryzen-7600...
All Zen 4 vs. 12900K vs. others
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-770...
It's similar to the UHD 770 in Alder Lake, sometimes a little better or worse. About half the performance of a 5700G which is impressive for 2 CUs.
UHD 770 in Raptor Lake gets +100 MHz across the board, so that could make a slight difference. Reply
neblogai - Thursday, October 20, 2022 - link
Thanks. I liked the ones on Techpowerup, as they include tests at 720p low, and tested more than a few titles. Part of my interest is the need to compare to Tomshardware 7950 iGPU results, which looked suspiciously low for the specs, and probably faulty: https://www.tomshardware.com/news/ryzen-7000-integ... ReplyCiccioB - Thursday, October 20, 2022 - link
About power consumption.I think it is completely useless to measure it when running a useless benchmark that you then don't even use to compare the relative performances to other CPUs.
It would be much worth having a measurement for some more useful (common?) benches, just to understand when a real work is applied how much the CPU is consuming and, related to the performances, understand how efficient it is.
Just think what the results would be if the CPU would be artificially limited (by BIOS/driver) in Prime95 bench: you would measure a much lower consumption that extrapolated for other tests, and you could just think the CPU is consuming a fraction of what is does. It's the same for the torture benches of GPUs. The max consumption in that test is useless to understand how much they really consume while gaming, and in fact, most of them are artificially limited or just hit the max TDP (which is again not a measure of power consumption).
If you don't want to provide the power consumption for most benches, at least use a bench that gives a comparable performance, so that (at least for that test) one can make a comparison of the efficiency. Reply