Rumor: AMD's Low Cost K8 with Integrated Graphics in 2008?

Apparently, AMD has been talking about doing a very integrated, very low cost K8 derivative for 2008.  The CPU would feature an on-die memory controller like the current Athlon 64. However, it would also feature an on-die graphics core and I/O controller - effectively, removing the need for any chipset on the motherboard. 

If you'll remember a few years back, Intel had a similar chip planned, code-named Timna.  Timna was supposed to integrate a graphics core and memory controller onto a single chip to drive total system costs down considerably, but Intel pulled the plug on the project at the last minute and shifted resources to what eventually became Centrino. 

AMD is definitely in a good position to piece together such a highly integrated CPU, given that they have already integrated the memory controller on-die with much success.  We do wonder where the graphics core would come from, as AMD would either have to design one from scratch or license the technology from another company.  Given that this type of a CPU would be targeted at very low cost markets, it would almost have to be an in-house job.  Granted, this is a very early rumor that may not pan out at all, so take all of this with a grain of salt. 

In the more near-term future, AMD will be transitioning to an on-die DDR2 memory controller by the middle of next year with their new M2 Socket and Socket-F (for desktops and servers respectively).  The initial design guides for boards based on these new sockets have been given to motherboard manufacturers, but the first samples won't be ready until the end of this year. 

Finally, the last piece about AMD here involves Turion.  Either AMD isn't very serious about Turion right now, or manufacturers aren't too impressed with it because we hardly heard any mention of the new mobile CPU at Computex from any of the notebook vendors.  Many product roadmaps going through to the end of this year were completely devoid of any mention of a Turion based notebook.

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  • AnnihilatorX - Monday, June 13, 2005 - link

    #4
    ElMoIsEviL you obviously didn't read the article. It mentioned they asked many different motherboard manufacturers. The article ALSO pointed out the fact that it does not agree with the studies BECAUSE Intel STILL has the majority OEM shares. OEM outsale custom-built PC and enthusasist market by far much margin.

    Nice to see competition heating up. Competition is what drives development
  • ElMoIsEviL - Monday, June 13, 2005 - link

    Those figures are BS. Which motherboard maker did you guys talk too? DFI?

    lol

    Actual marketshare figures taken from Mercury show results that differ greatly from these.

    Sorry to say but I call BS on this article.
  • Viditor - Monday, June 13, 2005 - link

    Well, remember that these are the independant mobo makers...that said, the huge shift is quite reassuring for my AMD stock...:-)

    Anand's comments on Turion are well taken. This has been the biggest discussion on most of the investment boards, and most people have a single theory. ODM/OEM manufacturers of mobiles usually require their designs to be completed by January each year. Most people I have spoken to (both Intel and AMD investors) agree that AMD probably wasn't able to get parts in to the designers in time for a January design release this year...
    What that means is that AMD will probably lag quite woefully until next year for the mobile space.
    Next year, we can expect both Turion64 and Sempron64 laptop designs coming out...until then, it looks like Intel will continue to run the table with Centurion.
  • cryptonomicon - Monday, June 13, 2005 - link

    And the one source that said 90% of server market? Heh...
  • snedzad - Monday, June 13, 2005 - link

    Wow, between 40 and 65 percent. Unbelievable. Congrats AMD.

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