The Multi-GPU Battle: ATI vs. NVIDIA

ATI's recent entry into the multi-GPU market with CrossFire has created competition in both price and performance aspects of high end AMD and Intel chipsets.

ATI continues to have problems with their South Bridges, and thus, they are turning to ULi to supply the South Bridges for motherboard designs based on their new multi-GPU chipset.  ATI's closest partners are currently beta-testing their new South Bridge, but none of them have any confidence in ATI's ability to bring their South Bridges to market in time.  While they are all ready to use ULi based South Bridges if necessary, in order to keep ATI happy, they are continuing to work with ATI's South Bridge in their designs. 

Given the lack of interest in any of ATI's previous chipsets, ATI knows that in order to get CrossFire off the ground with any sort of success, they will need some pretty powerful partners in the Taiwanese market.

Thus, ATI is talking to VIA and SiS to license out their multi-GPU technology so that you will be able to purchase a motherboard based on an ATI, VIA or SiS chipset and be able to run ATI graphics cards in multi-GPU modes.  VIA is particularly interested in this partnership as they aren't the biggest fans of NVIDIA at this point.

First availability of ATI's CrossFire chipsets won't be until July or August time frame from what we're hearing. 

NVIDIA is very curious about ATI's CrossFire, as it will mark the end of NVIDIA's exclusivity on multi-GPU platforms.  In order to help expand the SLI market, NVIDIA appears to be ready to drop the price of their nForce4 SLI chipset.  While currently priced at around $80, the chipset will drop in price to close to $40 later this year.  The goal is to enable SLI motherboards to be priced at $100 or less.  We have even heard that some very aggressive motherboard manufacturers are looking to offer sub-$80 nForce4 SLI motherboards by the end of this year. 

At $80, it would be senseless not to buy a SLI motherboard, which is exactly what NVIDIA wants.

The AMD Chipset Battle: NVIDIA vs. VIA VIA, ULi & SiS
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  • snedzad - Monday, June 13, 2005 - link

    Not quite, #23. Pro edition of K8T800 chipset supports 939 sck., and non pro doesn't (intended for sck 754).
    Here is the evidence:
    http://www.asustek.de/products/mb/mbindex.htm

    Ciao
  • patrick0 - Monday, June 13, 2005 - link

    I don't care about on-die Graphics, prefer if they just add some PCIe lanes on-die (at least 17).
    I/O controller on-die is a great idea.
  • overclockingoodness - Monday, June 13, 2005 - link

    #15: I think you are wrong. The K8T800 Pro is for K8 Socket 754, so it won't support DC.
  • Windaria - Monday, June 13, 2005 - link

    You know... I still can not understand why anyone would really like the BTX format. From everything I have read, it seems as if it is specifically designed for air to be blown in the back and out the front.

    The problem is that, while that sounds great, it appears to compeletely fail to take into consideration the environment that a PC is in. Every time I have ever had fans on a computer suck in the back and blow out the front... they get clogged with dust in no time because the rear of the computer tends to attract more dust. As a result I always have to switch them around.
  • nserra - Monday, June 13, 2005 - link

    Uli is profitable because they have very cheap to manufacture single chip designs, and they do a lot of chipsets for USB2 external HD, …..

    I am waiting for Uli come out with their SLI chipset with REAL AGP that can be a good buy, even without the SLI. I didn’t buy right now one of the 3 ASROCK ULi based boards just because of that.

    I think that Uli, sis, via aren’t bad, the problem is the “effort” that mobo makers have with them. If they could do the same they do with intel chipsets…. I won’t even talk about the quality of components they use on those chipset companies…..
  • Nayr - Monday, June 13, 2005 - link

    Actually #15, the K8T800Pro will support Dual-Core CPU's. VIA is only having a problem with the K8T890 Chipset and DC CPU's. It was on the front page a while ago.

    All in all, a good read and an interesting view on what's to come down the pipe line.
  • coldpower27 - Monday, June 13, 2005 - link

    You can probably take this article regarding the marketshare figures for AMD chipsets with a grain of salt, with the anonymity of these figures.

    Yes AMD was/is, a leader of the US retail desktop sales, however current retail US desktop marketshare figures for H1 2005 are not unknown.

    If they asked, motherboard manufacturer's primarily interested in retail sales, than these figures would be inline with the gains in the US retail desktop market.

    Though the OEM would be a different story, Dell would probably get most of it's mobos from Intel itself.



  • Sunbird - Monday, June 13, 2005 - link

    mmm, new movie,

    Chipset Wars, set on a island far far away...

    Uli: "Sis and Via, I'm am profitable, come over, and we could rule the motherboards together!"
  • ceefka - Monday, June 13, 2005 - link

    The shift with Taiwan mobomnfs is of course very nice for AMD, but doesn't Intel also make its own motherboards? And lots of them while we speak? How does that add in the total of motherboard making/selling?

    Anyway, you cannot expect the whole industry to go to sleep when so much speaks in favour of the Opteron and A64 especially since they are both coming in dual core also. AMD's growth is well deserverd.

    The Sempron going 64-bit was expected and needed. This will give room for:

    1. Hardware developpers to come up with the missing 64-bit drivers.
    2. Software devoloppers to release some more 64-bit applications.
    3. MS to eventually drop 32-bit support in favour of a full 64-bit (only) version.

    The less manufacturers hanging on to 32-bit apps the faster the transition to 64-bit.

    #9 Nice one. That Windsor core looks promising.
  • xsilver - Monday, June 13, 2005 - link

    #15
    oh my bad -- yea I meant the s939 k8t800pro -- names are too damn similar :)
    I have the abit av8
    hope it supports dual core

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