System-Wide Testing and Gaming

For our system wide tests, we had time to go through Geekbench 5, PCMark, and GFXBench. For workload based testing, we see performance uplifts with the S8g1, and it is a noting that here we tested PCMark with both performance mode on and off, which gave a +10% increase in the score – we’ve seen this before running PCMark on both Arm and x86 devices where turbo and favored cores can have large effects on scores. By contrast, GB5 scored the same.

GeekBench 5

PCMark Work 3.0 - PerformancePCMark Work 3.0 - Web Browsing 3.0PCMark Work 3.0 - Video EditingPCMark Work 3.0 - WritingPCMark Work 3.0 - Photo EditingPCMark Work 3.0 - Data Manipulation

In our PCMark tests, it's clear who the new ruler of the roost is.

GFXBench Aztec Ruins - High - Vulkan/Metal - Off-screenGFXBench Aztec Ruins - Normal - Vulkan/Metal - Off-screenGFXBench Manhattan 3.1 Off-screen

On the graphics side, Qualcomm’s new number-less Adreno that is advertised as being ‘new from the ground up (but we won’t tell you how)’ again offers generational improvements for next year’s Android flagships. Qualcomm historically also offers better graphics performance per watt, so we’ll have to wait until we get the devices on hand to showcase that data. But overall, the gains in these tests show a large +50% performance jump over previous generation S888 graphics performance. In 2022, we'll have MediaTek’s flagship trying to aim for the same market but based on the Mali GPU, and graphics is an area that Qualcomm historically outpaces Mali designs quite easily. The only serious competitor in this space is Apple.

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  • rtho782 - Friday, December 17, 2021 - link

    Alex Katouzian is like budget Sylvester Stallone :D
  • bogamia - Monday, December 20, 2021 - link

    Apparently, D9000 has been benchmarked by this Chinese YouTuber (https://youtu.be/1ves1M4Ai-I) and it outperformed the snapdragon 8 gen 1 in all the areas. The performance power watt gap is massive between these two chips. Even in GPU benchmarks, D9000 outperformed the snapdragon equivalent. This is going to be an interesting generation. I wonder what will be the excuses of OEMs to use Qualcomm in the affordable flagship segments .
  • iphonebestgamephone - Monday, December 20, 2021 - link

    It looks like things like genshin impact is still more optimized for adreno.
  • ChrisGX - Thursday, December 23, 2021 - link

    >>[the D9000] outperformed the snapdragon 8 gen 1 in all the areas<<

    Not, exactly. The vlogger makes clear that the Adreno GPU in the Snapdragon 8 Gen 1 offers slightly higher performance than the Mali G710 in the D9000 but that the small performance increment comes at a significant cost in power consumption terms. So, while the Mali GPU offers slightly lower performance it is definitely the more energy efficient GPU.
  • Kangal - Friday, December 24, 2021 - link

    Interesting video. Here's the recap:

    GeekBench 5 (Single-core)
    D9000: 1287 score, 3.5 Watts, 368 Efficiency
    QC 8g1: 1200 score, 4.2 Watts, 286 Efficiency
    QSD 888: 1135 score, 3.8 Watts, 299 Efficiency

    GeekBench 5 (Multi-thread)
    D9000: 4474 score, 9.8 Watts, 457 Efficiency
    QC 8g1: 3810 score, 11.1 Watts, 343 Efficiency
    QSD 888: 3753 score, 8.9 Watts, 422 Efficiency

    GFXBench Aztec Ruins (High/1440p Offscreen)
    D9000: 43 fps, 8.2 Watts, 5.24 Efficiency
    QC 8g1: 47 fps, 11.2 Watts, 4.20 Efficiency
    QSD 888: 30 fps, 9.0 Watts, 3.34 Efficiency

    Genshin Impact (Quality Mode, Initial Performance)
    D9000: 60 fps, 6.8 Watts, drops 1.1 Watts, 7 minutes then throttles
    QC 8g1: 60 fps, 7.5 Watts, drops 1.2 Watts, 3 min then dips but maintains
    QSD 888: 60 fps, 7.5 Watts, drops 1.6 Watts, 6 minutes then throttles

    Genshin Impact (Quality Mode, after 15min throttling)
    D9000: 48 fps, 5.7 Watts, 8.42 Efficiency, Resolution 1422x640
    QC 8g1: 55 fps, 6.3 Watts, 8.73 Efficiency, Resolution 1422x640
    QSD 888: 48 fps, 5.9 Watts, 8.14 Efficiency, Resolution 1600x720
  • ChrisGX - Tuesday, January 4, 2022 - link

    Xiaobai's Tech Reviews ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TyEkQZvAEI ) - a Hong Kong based YouTuber - has come to similar conclusions to the tech vlogger (Geekerwan) that you cite. The benchmark testing conducted by both vloggers seems broader in scope and more careful than the usual fare on YouTube. In both cases the engineering test mules/prototype devices tested were equipped with the latest crop of premium ARM SoCs (that will appear in production Android devices in 2022). The similarity of benchmark results doesn't guarantee the correctness of those results or the completeness of the performance picture drawn, of course, but with independent sources getting very similar results it wouldn't be a shock if production devices follow the evident pattern.

    Golden Reviewer, a Singapore based tech reviewer/vlogger (posting reviews in English) if anything offers an even more critical account of the SD8 Gen 1 and an account of the D9000 that does indeed credit it as the better chip in most areas. Using a pre-production device in testing he singles out overheating as a serious problem for the SD8 Gen 1.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HO46vmsS61Y
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCYx3K4qjX4
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTW6Z55bEfU
  • maik80 - Tuesday, January 18, 2022 - link

    Fans of android have a mania to use AnTuTu, the owner has already been arrested for fraud in the tests, it has already been confirmed that he received to increase the result. In addition to giving points for the amount of ram memory. it's a joke
  • qnfw3174 - Thursday, March 31, 2022 - link

    Is it finished to test A710/A510? Where can I find the result?
  • yeeeeman - Monday, April 25, 2022 - link

    Can we get a follow up on this?

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