The Intel 12th Gen Core i9-12900K Review: Hybrid Performance Brings Hybrid Complexity

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• SystemsBuilder - Saturday, November 6, 2021 - link

  I don't think Pat's blaming previous leadership. I am. I also blame Pat to per above.
  He can still fix it by being super clear about what, when, why in his communication. He needs to bring marketing messaging under control.
  I can tell one thing though. I'm not buying Alder Lake CPUs. I'm probably going for Sapphire Rapids next year when the whole thing have hopefully settled a bit more.

• mode_13h - Saturday, November 6, 2021 - link

  > We have been lied to and spacetime can’t be warped to erase the stain on his tenure.
  
  I'd have to say that, based on your tenor, I'd be more concerned about the stain in your pants.
  
  Now *that's* an "ad hom". You're welcome.
  :D

• Oxford Guy - Sunday, November 7, 2021 - link

  ‘I'd have to say that, based on your tenor, I'd be more concerned about the stain in your pants.
  
  Now *that's* an "ad hom". You're welcome.’
  
  Posting drivel like that exposes your character for all to see.

• mode_13h - Sunday, November 7, 2021 - link

  > Posting drivel like that exposes your character for all to see.
  
  What I hope they see is that I can keep a measure of proportion about these things and not get overwrought. Not all "righteous indignation" is so righteous.

• Qasar - Sunday, November 7, 2021 - link

  " Posting drivel like that exposes your character for all to see."
  
  hello pot, meet kettle.

• Oxford Guy - Monday, November 8, 2021 - link

  Thanks for yet another fallacy, Qasar. mode is doing well enough polluting the forum with them. Help really isn’t required.

• Qasar - Monday, November 8, 2021 - link

  you do a good job with the pollurion as well oxford guy :-)

• mode_13h - Saturday, November 6, 2021 - link

  > The solution was to be clear and consistent.
  
  So far, they have. No AVX-512. That ASUS figured out it was still present and could be enabled isn't Intel's fault. It's like back in the days when some motherboards would let you enable dark cores in your CPU.
  
  > Gelsinger should have said
  
  It's not his job. Your issue is with someone at Intel several levels below him.

• Oxford Guy - Sunday, November 7, 2021 - link

  ‘It's not his job. Your issue is with someone at Intel several levels below him.’
  
  Lying to the public (‘fused off’) is a decision that rests on his shoulders.
  
  That isn’t the only one.

• mode_13h - Sunday, November 7, 2021 - link

  > Lying to the public (‘fused off’) is a decision that rests on his shoulders.
  
  Exactly where did they say it's "fused off", and when has it ever been inexcusable that hardware shipped to customers actually contains features that can secretly be enabled? This sort of thing happens all the time.