Performance

I’m not a big one on posting first-party benchmark results, but the high-level overview from Intel was this:

  • At 3.3 GHz, 12900K is +19% better in Single Thread Performance over the 11900K
  • Over the 11900K, the 12900K is +19% better at 1080p High with RTX 3090
  • Over the 11900K, the 12900K gets +84% better fps when concurrently streaming
  • Over the 11900K, the 12900K is +22-100% better in content creation (Adobe)
  • Over the 11900K, the 12900K is +50% faster in BlenderMT at 241W (vs 250W)
  • Over the 11900K, the 12900K performs the same in BlenderMT at only 65W (vs 250W)

All of Intel’s tests were using Windows 11, with DDR5-4400 vs DDR4-3200. Intel did have a small one slide of comparisons against AMD in gaming with an RTX 3090, however they stated they were done without the latest L3 patch fix, and admitted that they would have preferred to show us full results. By the time this article goes live, we may have seen those results at Intel’s event.

This is a reasonable set of data, very focused on the Core i9, but when the reviews come out we’ll be able to see where it sits compared to the other parts, as well as the competition. The only thing that concerns me right now leading up to the launch is the behavior of demoting workloads to E-cores when not in focus when on the Balanced Power Plan (mentioned on the Thread Director page). It won’t be until I get hands-on with the hardware as to whether I see it as an issue or not.

Another factor to mention is DRM. Intel has made statements to this, but there is an issue with Denuvo as it uses part of the CPU configuration to identify systems to stop piracy. Due to the hybrid nature, Denuvo might register starting on a different core (P vs E) as a new system, and eventually lock you out of the game either temporarily or permanently. Out of the top 200 games, around 20 are affected and Intel says it still has a couple more to fix. It’s working with Denuvo for a high-level fix from their side, and with developers to fix from their end as well. Intel says it’s a bit harder with older titles, especially when there’s no development going on, or the IP is far away from its original source. A solution to this would be to only launch those games on specific cores, but look out for more updates as time marches on.

Conclusions

Well, it’s almost here. It looks like Intel will take the ST crown, although MT is a bit of a different story, and might rely explicitly on the software being used or if the difference in performance is worth the price. The use of the hybrid architecture might be an early pain point, and it will be interesting to see if Thread Director remains resilient to the issues. The bump up to Windows 11 is also another potential rock in the stream, and we’re seeing some teething issues from users, although right now users who are looking to early adopt a new CPU are likely more than ready to adopt a new version of Windows at the same time.

The discourse on DDR4 vs DDR5 is one I’ve had for almost a year now. Memory vendors seem ready to start seeding kits to retailers, however the expense over DDR4 is somewhat eyewatering. The general expectation is that DDR5 won’t offer much performance uplift over a good kit of DDR4, or might even be worse. The benefit of DDR5 then at this point is more to start on that DDR5 ladder, where the only way to go is up. This will be Intel’s last DDR4 platform on desktop it seems.

On the processors themselves, the Core i5 and Core i7 parts look very competitive and in line with respective popular AMD processors. Both the Core i5 and Core i7 have extra E-cores, so we’ll see if that comes in handy for extra performance, or they’ll just end up burning power and performance per watt needs re-examining. The Core i9 challenge is probably sided on Intel for single thread, but all the questions will be over proper multi-threaded performance.

Intel 12th Gen Core, Alder Lake
AnandTech Cores
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Base
E-Core
Turbo
P-Core
Base
P-Core
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IGP Base
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Turbo
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i9-12900K 8+8/24 2400 3900 3200 5200 770 125 241 $589
i9-12900KF 8+8/24 2400 3900 3200 5200 - 125 241 $564
i7-12700K 8+4/20 2700 3800 3600 5000 770 125 190 $409
i7-12700KF 8+4/20 2700 3800 3600 5000 - 125 190 $384
i5-12600K 6+4/20 2800 3600 3700 4900 770 125 150 $289
i5-12600KF 6+4/20 2800 3600 3700 4900 - 125 150 $264

After not much CPU news for a while, it’s time to get in gear and find out what Intel has been cooking. Come back on November 4th for our review.

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  • MaxIT - Thursday, October 28, 2021 - link

    You are right , but Lisa Su now needs a reality check. Her price policy was outrageous, because she knew she had the best technology available (Zen 3) last year.
    Now 5600X and 5800X prices are ridiculous.
    AMD needs to return at least at Zen 2 levels, in term of prices.
  • Qasar - Thursday, October 28, 2021 - link

    you do understand that a lot of the prices we are seeing are because of the shortages, crypto miners, higher demand because of covid etc. again, amd only increased its prices by $50, MSRP, the rest is do to the other factors.
  • Oxford Guy - Friday, October 29, 2021 - link

    Inflation is high.

    American wildflower seed (the real thing, not florists' stuff) has doubled in price for many species. Some have gone higher than that (tripled over several years' time). Covid hasn't caused a shortage but inflation is causing the prices to go way up. This was happening even prior to Covid.

    Wildflower seed is unlikely to be the only sector that has seen massive price jumps.
  • mode_13h - Friday, October 29, 2021 - link

    All seed prices surged, because the pandemic fueled a renewed interest in gardening. Also, flowers and houseplants make for good video conferencing backgrounds, which probably contributed to the demand surge (and therefore price inflation) of those products.
  • Oxford Guy - Friday, October 29, 2021 - link

    mode, you’re fond of stating claims about things you don’t know about as if they’re fact rather than speculation.

    The dramatic price increases in wildflower seed were happening prior to Covid. Covid money printing exacerbates the problem.

    This seed is not used for gardening primarily. Next time either do enough research or stick to topics you have knowledge in.
  • mode_13h - Saturday, October 30, 2021 - link

    What I know is that seed prices surged due to pandemic-fueled interest in gardening. I also know that houseplant demand has surged, as well. I have no specific knowledge of wildflower seeds, but when they're adjacent to two other areas that have experienced a demand surge, it's a reasonable assumption to make that similar forces acted on that market.

    Also, while inflation is notable, it's not nearly enough to account for what you're seeing. You accuse me of stating claims about things I don't know, but that's exactly what you did by attributing the price increases to simple inflation.
  • Oxford Guy - Sunday, October 31, 2021 - link

    'I have no specific knowledge of wildflower seeds'

    Yes.
  • Qasar - Friday, October 29, 2021 - link

    if you really think inflation is the cause of prices going up, then good for you. i doubt inflation went up that much to cause the price increases we have seen aka video cards
  • Spunjji - Friday, October 29, 2021 - link

    @Qasar - it didn't, but some people seem to favour oddly specific explanations over more generally plausible ones.
  • Oxford Guy - Friday, October 29, 2021 - link

    Inflation has been happening prior to Covid but a lot of money was printed in response to it.

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