Intel Architecture Day 2021: Alder Lake, Golden Cove, and Gracemont Detailed
by Dr. Ian Cutress & Andrei Frumusanu on August 19, 2021 9:00 AM ESTConclusions
Alder Lake is set to come to market for both desktop and mobile, and we’re expecting the desktop hardware to start to appear by the end of the year – perhaps a little later for the rest of the family, but all-in-all we expect Intel is experiencing some serious squeaky bum time regarding how all the pieces will fit in place at that launch. The two main critical factors are operating systems and memory.
Because Alder Lake is Intel’s first full-stack attempt to commercialize a hybrid design, it has had to work closely with Microsoft to enable all the features it needs to make managing a hybrid core design properly beneficial to users. Intel’s new Thread Director Technology couples an integrated microcontroller per P-core and a new API for Windows 11 such that the scheduler in the operating system can take hints about the workflow on the core at a super fine granularity – every 30 microseconds or so. With information about what each thread is doing (from heavy AVX2 down to spin lock idling), the OS can react when a new thread needs performance, and choose which threads need to be relegated down to the E-core or as a hyperthread (which is classified as slower than an E-core).
When I first learned Alder Lake was going to be a hybrid design, I was perhaps one of the most skeptical users about how it was going to work, especially with some of the limits of Windows 10. At this point today however, with the explanations I have from Intel, I’m more confident than not that they’ve done it right. Some side off-the-record conversations I have had have only bolstered the idea that Microsoft has done everything Intel has asked, and users will need Windows 11 to get that benefit. Windows 10 still has some Hardware Guided Scheduling, but it’s akin to only knowing half the story. The only question is whether Windows 11 will be fully ready by the time Alder Lake comes to market.
For memory, as a core design, Alder Lake will have support for DDR4 and DDR5, however only one can be used at any given time. Systems will have to be designed for one or the other – Intel will state that by offering both, OEMs will have the opportunity to use the right memory at the right time for the right cost, however the push to full DDR5 would simplify the platform a lot more. We’re starting to see DDR5 come to the consumer market, but not in any volume that makes any consumer sense – market research firms expect the market to be 10% DDR5 by the end of 2022, which means that consumers might have to be stay with DDR4 for a while, and vendors will have to choose whether to bundle DDR5 with their systems. Either way, there’s no easy answer to the question ‘what memory should I use with Alder Lake’.
Through The Cores and The Atoms
From a design perspective, both the P-core and E-core are showcasing substantial improvements to their designs compared to previous generations.
The new Golden Cove core has upgraded the front-end decoder, which has been a sticking point for analysis of previous Cove and Lake cores. The exact details of how they operate are still being kept under wraps, but having a 6-wide variable length decoder is going to be an interesting talking point against 8-wide fixed-length decoders in the market and which one is better. The Golden Cove core also has very solid IPC figure gains, Intel saying 19%, although the fact there are some regressions is interesting. Intel did compare Golden Cove to Cypress Cove, the backported desktop core, rather than Willow Cove, the Tiger Lake core, which would have been a more apt comparison given that our testing shows Willow Cove slightly ahead. But still, around 19% is a good figure. Andrei highlights in his analysis that the move from a 10-wide to a 12-wide disaggregated execution back-end should be a good part of that performance, and that most core designs that go down this route end up being good.
However, for Gracemont, Intel has taken that concept to the extreme. Having 17 execution ports allows Intel to clock-gate each port when not in use, and even when you couple that with a smaller 5-wide allocation dispatch and 8-wide retire, it means that without specific code to keep all 17 ports fed, a good number are likely to be disabled, saving power. The performance numbers Intel provided were somewhat insane for Gracemont, suggesting +8% performance over Skylake at peak power, or a variety of 40% ST perf/power or 80% MT perf/power against Skylake. If Gracemont is truly a Skylake-beating architecture, then where have you been! I’m advocating for a 64-core HEDT chip tomorrow.
One harsh criticism Intel is going to get back is dropping AVX-512 for this generation. For the talk we had about ‘no transistor left behind’, Alder Lake dropped it hard. That’s nothing to say if the functionality will come back later, but if rumors are believed and Zen 4 has some AVX-512 support, we might be in a situation where the only latest consumer hardware on the market supporting AVX-512 is from AMD. That would be a turn-up. But AMD’s support is just a rumor, and really if Intel wants to push AVX-512 again, it will have a Sisyphean task to convince everyone it’s what the industry needs.
Where We Go From Here
There are still some unanswered questions as to the Alder Lake design, and stuff that we will test when we get the hardware in hand. Intel has an event planned for the end of October called the Intel InnovatiON event (part of the ON series), which would be the right time to introduce Alder Lake as a product to the world. Exactly when it comes to retail will be a different question, but as long as Intel executes this year on the technology, it should make for an interesting competition with the rest of the market.
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mode_13h - Friday, August 20, 2021 - link
> they can't exactly prevent open source software from developingWell, they don't have to release all of the information that would be needed for Linux to do the same thing.
> Linux will probably have better support than Windows itself
Intel is one of the largest contributors to the Linux kernel. No doubt, any support for their Thread Director will be developed by them.
Obi-Wan_ - Thursday, August 19, 2021 - link
Is it likely that Alder Lake will consume noticeably less power when near idle or during video playback/streaming, or are existing CPUs already quite efficient in these cases?I'm thinking an HTPC that should be as silent as possible when idling and streaming, but also have a high power budget (effectively noise budget) when gaming for example.
mode_13h - Friday, August 20, 2021 - link
If you really care about minimizing idle power, then I think you probably need to use LPDDR memory. Integrated graphics should also be a priority.Another thing people miss is that the PSU should not only be a high-efficiency model, but also not heavily over-spec'd. Power supplies lose a lot of efficiency, when you run them well below peak load.
mode_13h - Thursday, August 19, 2021 - link
> The desktop processor will have sixteen lanes of PCIe 5.0I'll believe it when I see it. Let's not forget that it took Intel 2 generations to get PCIe 4.0 working! They had to reverse course on enabling it it Comet Lake, and that was years after POWER, Ryzen, and some ARM CPUs had it.
I also don't see the value of having it now, given that we know DG2 is going to be only PCIe 4, nor are we aware of any other upcoming GPUs that will support 5.0.
Bp_968 - Sunday, August 22, 2021 - link
Pcie 5 is twice as fast and backwards compatible. Why would you *not* want it in your system if possible? Its not like you can add it later.Pcie4 is mostly useless for gpus already (regardless if they "support" it or not) so pcie5 isnt going to improve anything gpu wise just like it didnt improve with pcie4.
But where it *will* be an improvement is in peripherals (the x4 channel to the chipset just got twice as fast) and support for pcie5 storage. Oh and easier support for high speed interconnects like USB 3-4 and 10gb ethernet.
Personally id prefer the layout be different. X16 or X8/x8 (plus 2 x4 slots for nvme i think) for the pcie5 is ok, but on the pcie4 side I'd like to see x16, x8/x8 as an option as well. That way you could use the pcie5 slots on other stuff and put the gpu in a x16 or x8 pcie4 slot (and it perform just as well). Support for 4+ nvme drives will be nice in the future. One or two pcie5 high speed units and then spots for slower SSDs for mass storage (x2 or x4 pcie4 being the "slow" slots).
mode_13h - Monday, August 23, 2021 - link
> Pcie 5 is twice as fast and backwards compatible.> Why would you *not* want it in your system if possible?
Mainly due to board and peripheral costs, I think. Beyond that, power dissipation should be well above PCIe 4.0 and it could also be a source of stability issues.
> But where it *will* be an improvement is in peripherals
> (the x4 channel to the chipset just got twice as fast)
This is actually the one place where it makes sense to me. The chipset can be located next to the CPU, so that hopefully no retimers will be needed. And the additional power needed to run a short x4 link @ 5.0 speeds hopefully shouldn't be too bad. When leaks first emerged about Alder Lake having PCIe 5.0, I suspected it was just for the chipset link.
> support for pcie5 storage.
By the time there are any consumer SSDs that exceed PCIe 4.0 x4 speeds, we'll already be on a new platform. It took over a year for PCIe 4.0 SSDs to finally surpass PCIe 3.0 x4 speeds, and many still don't.
> easier support for high speed interconnects like USB 3-4
The highest-rated speed for USB4 is PCIe 3.0 x4. However, even a chipset link of PCIe 4.0 x4 will mean you can support it with bandwidth to spare. That said, I think the highest-speed USB links are typically CPU-direct, in recent generations.
> 10gb ethernet.
You can already do that with a PCIe 4.0 x1 link.
Spunjji - Monday, August 23, 2021 - link
> But where it *will* be an improvement is in peripherals> (the x4 channel to the chipset just got twice as fast)
It doesn't use PCIe 5.0 for the chipset link, so it doesn't even have that advantage. I genuinely think it's premature. I guess we'll have to see what motherboard costs look like to know whether it was worth it for future-proofing, or whether it's just spec wankery.
mode_13h - Tuesday, August 24, 2021 - link
> It doesn't use PCIe 5.0 for the chipset linkI'm pretty sure they didn't specify that, one way or another. I'm pessimistic, though. Then again, didn't Rocket Lake have a PCIe 4.0 x8 link to the chipset? If so, moving up to PCIe 5.0 x4 is plausible.
> or whether it's just spec wankery.
It's definitely wankery. I'm just waiting for them either to walk it back, a la Comet Lake's PCIe 4.0 support, or for users to encounter a raft of issues, once some PCIe 5.0 GPU is finally released and people try to actually *use* the capability.
Spunjji - Friday, August 27, 2021 - link
All the resources I'm finding online say it's a DMI 4.0 x8 link to the chipset, so the same as Rocket Lake. Personally I think that's going to be plenty for the vast majority of their users, assuming they follow up at some point in the not-too distant future with an up-to-date HEDT platform for the users who need more.mode_13h - Saturday, August 28, 2021 - link
That's a shame, because the DMI link is the one place where Intel could've gotten practical benefits from using PCIe 5.0, right away.