Instruction Sets: Alder Lake Dumps AVX-512 in a BIG Way

One of the big questions we should address here is how the P-cores and E-cores have been adapted to work inside a hybrid design. One of the critical aspects in a hybrid design is if both cores support different levels of instructions. It is possible to build a processor with an unbalanced instruction support, however that requires hardware to trap unsupported instructions and do core migration mid-execution. The simple way to get around this is to ensure that both types of cores have the same level of instruction support. This is what Intel has done in Alder Lake.

In order to get to this point, Intel had to cut down some of the features of its P-core, and improve some features on the E-core. The biggest thing that gets the cut is that Intel is losing AVX-512 support inside Alder Lake. When we say losing support, we mean that the AVX-512 is going to be physically fused off, so even if you ran the processor with the E-cores disabled at boot time, AVX-512 is still disabled.

Intel’s journey with AVX-512 has been long and fragmented. Some workloads can be vectorised – multiple bits of consecutive data all require the same operation, so you can pack them into a single register and perform it all at once with a single instruction. Designed as its third generation of vector instructions (AVX is 128-bit, AVX2 is 256-bit, AVX512 is 512-bit), AVX-512 was initially found on server processors, then mobile, and we found it in the previous version of desktop processors. At the time, Intel stated that by enabling AVX-512 on its processor line from top to bottom, it would encourage greater adoption, and they were leaning hard into this missive.

But that all changes with Alder Lake. Both desktop processors and mobile processors will now have AVX-512 disabled in all scenarios. But the silicon will still be physically present in the core, only because Intel uses the same core in its next generation server processors called Sapphire Rapids. One could argue that if the AVX-512 unit was removed from the desktop cores that they would be a lot smaller, however Intel has disagreed on this point in previous launches. What it means is that for the consumer parts we have some extra dark silicon in the design, which ultimately might help thermals, or absorb defects.

But it does mean that AVX-512 is probably dead for consumers.

Intel isn’t even supporting AVX-512 with a dual-issue AVX2 mode over multiple operations - it simply won’t work on Alder Lake. If AMD’s Zen 4 processors plan to support some form of AVX-512 as has been theorized, even as dual-issue AVX2 operations, we might be in some dystopian processor environment where AMD is the only consumer processor on the market to support AVX-512.

On the E-core side, Gracemont will be Intel’s first Atom processor to support AVX2. In testing with the previous generation Tremont Atom core, at 2.9 GHz it performed similarly to a Haswell 2.9 GHz Celeron processor, i.e. identical in non-AVX2 situations. By adding AVX2, plus fundamental performance increases, we’re told to expect ‘Skylake-like performance’ from the new E-cores. Intel also stated that both the P-core and E-core will be at ‘Haswell-level’ AVX2 support.

By enabling AVX2  on the E-cores, Intel is also integrating support for VNNI instructions for neural network calculations. In the past VNNI (and VNNI2) were built for AVX-512, however this time around Intel has done a version of AVX2-VNNI for both the P-core and E-core designs in Alder Lake. So while AVX-512 might be dead here, at least some of those AI acceleration features are carrying over, albeit in AVX2 form.

For the data center versions of these big cores, Intel does have AVX-512 support and new features for matrix extensions, which we will cover in that section.

Gracemont Microarchitecture (E-Core) Examined Conclusions: Through The Cores and The Atoms
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  • NikosD - Wednesday, August 25, 2021 - link

    Don't get confused...Sandy Bridge and Ivy Bridge have the exact same implementation of AVX1 execution like Haswell...They both support full 256-bit throughput (like Haswell) for all 256-bit AVX1 execution units on port 0,1 and 5 (for Sandy Bridge).
  • SystemsBuilder - Friday, August 20, 2021 - link

    E cores are also good for marketing purposes.
    I can envision the sticker on the "latest" PC/laptops at BestBuy in front of me: bla, bla, bla ... "Intel 12th gen CPU with 16 cores"... more bla, bla.
    In fact thinking a bit about this, Alder Lake might be a pure marketing department driven product as a reaction AMD's core count superiority -> # of core sells.
  • Oxford Guy - Friday, August 20, 2021 - link

    I don’t doubt that that’s part of it.
  • mode_13h - Saturday, August 21, 2021 - link

    I had the same thought, initially. That E-cores were mainly a ploy to inflate their core counts.

    However, as mentioned above, the E-cores are a very area-efficient way to increase performance on multithreaded workloads. So, another cynical take on it would be that they're just a way to gin up some of the benchmark numbers.
  • Oxford Guy - Friday, August 20, 2021 - link

    ‘Intel did confirm that the highest client power, presumably on the desktop processor, will be 125 W.’

    Will that be 125 actual watts or the traditional fantasy watts of claimed TDP for Intel desktop CPUs?
  • StoykovK - Saturday, August 21, 2021 - link

    I think that this is TDP as PL1. In my opinion PL2 should be quite higher.
  • Spunjji - Tuesday, August 24, 2021 - link

    Around 228W, apparently
  • taisingera - Friday, August 20, 2021 - link

    My take away from this is Microsoft is dictating to you that to use Windows 11 you need at least 8th gen Intel, and Intel is dictating to you that to use Alder Lake, you need Windows 11 for the Intel Thread Detector.
  • Gradius2 - Friday, August 20, 2021 - link

    WHEN this will be out? September?
  • Jp7188 - Sunday, August 22, 2021 - link

    Re: thread director, I'm cringing at the security implications of a microcontroller that can spy on every thread and is OS accessible. I'm thinking this is likely to be the reason it's closed-source/Windows only for now. When/if this gets open sourced it's going to be a hacker's field day.

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