AMD Ryzen 9 5980HS Cezanne Review: Ryzen 5000 Mobile Tested
by Dr. Ian Cutress on January 26, 2021 9:00 AM EST- Posted in
- CPUs
- AMD
- Vega
- Ryzen
- Zen 3
- Renoir
- Notebook
- Ryzen 9 5980HS
- Ryzen 5000 Mobile
- Cezanne
IGP: 720p Gaming Tests
Testing our Cezanne sample for integrated graphics is a double-edged sword – AMD fully expects this CPU to be paired with a discrete solution in almost all notebook environments, whereas mini-PC designs might be a mix of integrated and discrete. The integrated graphics on this silicon is more geared towards the U-series processors at 15 W, and so that is where the optimizations lie. We encountered a similar environment when we tested Renoir at 35 W last year as well.
In order to enable the integrated graphics on our ASUS ROG Flex X13 system, we disable the GTX 1650 through the device manager. This forces the system to run on the Vega 8 graphics inside, which for this processor runs at 2100 MHz, a +350 MHz jump from the previous generation based on the improved power management and minor manufacturing improvements. We did the same to the other systems in our test suite.
Integrated graphics over the years has been built up from something barely useable in a 2D desktop environment to hardware that can competitively run the most popular eSports titles at good resolutions, medium settings, at playable framerates. In our recent review of AMD’s Ryzen 4000G Desktop APUs, we noted that these were the best desktop APUs that money could buy, held back at this point mostly by the memory bandwidth, but still enabling some good performance. Ultimately modern day integrated graphics has cannibalized the sub-$100 GPU market, and these sorts of processors work great in budget builds. There’s still a way to go on performance, and at least mobile processors help in that regard as more systems push to LPDDR4X memory systems that afford better memory bandwidth.
For our integrated graphics testing, we’re using our lowest configuration for our game comparisons. This typically means the lowest resolution and graphics fidelity settings we can get away with, which to be honest is still a lot better visually than when I used to play Counter Strike 1.5 with my dual core netbook in the late 2000s. From there the goal is to showcase some good graphics performance tied in with CPU performance to see where the limits are – even at 720p on Low settings, some of these processors are still graphics limited.
Integrated Graphics Benchmark Results | |||||
AnandTech | Ryzen 9 5980HS |
Ryzen 9 4900HS |
Ryzen 7 4800U |
Core i7 1185G7 |
|
Power Mode | 35 W | 35 W | 15 W | 28-35 W | |
Graphics | Vega 8 | Vega 8 | Vega 8 | Iris Xe | |
Memory | LP4-4267 | D4-3200 | LP4-4267 | LP4-4267 | |
Frames Per Second Averages | |||||
Civilization 6 | 480p Min | 101.7 | 98.9 | 68.4 | 66.2 |
Deus Ex: MD | 600p Min | 80.7 | 76.5 | 61.2 | 69.1 |
Final Fantasy XV | 720p Med | 31.4 | 31.3 | 29.1 | 36.5 |
Strange Brigade | 720p Low | 93.2 | 85.2 | 75.7 | 89.3 |
Borderlands 3 | 360p VLow | 89.8 | 93.6 | - | 64.9 |
Far Cry 5 | 360p Low | 68.0 | 69.5 | 60.0 | 61.3 |
GTA 5 | 720p Low | 98.9 | 80.7 | 80.0 | 81.9 |
Gears Tactics | 720p Low | 86.8 | - | 87.8 | 118.2 |
95th Frame Time Percentiles (shown as FPS) | |||||
Civilization 6 | 480p Min | 69.0 | 67.4 | 45.7 | 43.8 |
Deus Ex: MD | 600p Min | 45.6 | 57.3 | 38.1 | 44.1 |
Final Fantasy XV | 720p Med | - | 26.6 | 24.6 | 26.5 |
Strange Brigade | 768p Min | 84.2 | 77.0 | 68.6 | 73.0 |
Borderlands 3 | 360p VLow | 63.6 | 73.8 | - | 48.9 |
Far Cry 5 | 360p Low | 50.3 | 62.3 | 43.8 | 49.8 |
GTA 5 | 720p Low | 66.8 | 52.8 | 56.0 | 55.7 |
Gears Tactics | 720p Low | 67.5 | - | 78.3 | 104.5 |
Despite the Ryzen 9 5980HS having LPDDR4X memory and extra frequency, the performance uplift against the Ryzen 9 4900HS is relatively mediocre – a few FPS at best, or losing a few FPS at worst. This is except for GTA, where the uplift is more ~20%, with the Zen 3 cores helping most here. In most tests it’s an easy win against Intel’s top Xe solution, except in Gears Tactics, which sides very heavily with the Intel solution.
With all that being said, as mentioned, the Ryzen 9 parts here are more likely to be paired with discrete graphics solutions. The ASUS ROG Flow X13 we are using today has a GTX 1650, whereas the ASUS Zephyrus G14 with the 4900HS has an RTX 2060. These scenarios are what really dictate the cooling solution in these systems, as well as how they are both used in workloads that requires CPU and GPU performance.
For any users confused as to why we run at these settings; these are our low 'IGP'-class settings in our CPU Gaming test format. As mentioned in our new CPU Suite article in the middle of last year, our CPU Gaming tests have four sets of settings: 720p Low (or Lower), 1440p Low, 4K Low, and 1080p Maximum. The segment above our lowest this in our suite is 1440p, which for a lot of these integrated GPUs would put numbers into the low double digits, if not lower, which something we've done in the past to massive complaints about why even bothering with such low framerate numbers. The point here is to work from a maximum frame rate, see if the game is even playable to begin with, and then detect where in a game the bottleneck can be; in some of these tests we're still dealing with GPU/DRAM bottlenecks. I've played CSS1.5 and other games at a Lan party on dual core AMD netbooks in the late 2000s, having to use low resolution texture packs to get it even 20 FPS playable. I still had masses amount of fun. From these numbers you can see the best possible frame rates for a given title and engine, and work down from there. It provides a starting point for further directions. These processors more often being paired with discrete solutions anyway, making discussions about IGP performance almost somewhat trivial compared to the rest of the data/
218 Comments
View All Comments
Samus - Wednesday, January 27, 2021 - link
The 1660Ti has a higher TDP than the entire POWER SUPPLY of these test systems...GeoffreyA - Wednesday, January 27, 2021 - link
"1660ti or better is mandatory for any decent gaming"The iGPUs are a blessing to many people, especially those on a slender budget, like myself. One can actually play games on these and have a lot of fun.
ZoZo - Tuesday, January 26, 2021 - link
Indeed I didn't base my statement on the results in this test. I thought I remembered seeing 15W Tiger Lake vs 15W Renoir giving an edge to Tiger Lake.yeeeeman - Wednesday, January 27, 2021 - link
this test is comparing a 35W part iGPU to a 15W part iGPU. 1185G7 beats 4800U iGPU..schujj07 - Wednesday, January 27, 2021 - link
The only 15W CPU in this iGPU test is that of the 4800U. The 1185G7 is 28-35W and the other Ryzen's are 35W. The 4900HS has a RAM speed deficiency on the 1185G7 and wins 4 out of 7 tests.mikk - Thursday, January 28, 2021 - link
Because they are mostly CPU bound, it's primarily a CPU test! Look at the resolution. Anandtech lowered the resolution to 360p-480p low details in some of them to give Vega a chance to beat Xe. Furthermore Vega needs to clock at 2100 Mhz, a 55% clock speed advantage. No AV1 decoding either which is another big flaw for a mobile device.Spunjji - Friday, January 29, 2021 - link
@mikk - Pretty sure those results still aren't CPU bound, otherwise they'd be in the 100+fps range - and you'd expect Intel to win under those circumstances, because of their high single-thread performance. If Intel's iGPU only "wins" when they're both running sub-30 fps then it's a fairly meaningless win."Vega needs to clock at 2100 Mhz" - irrelevant. High clocks is only a disadvantage if it leads to worse power consumption, and that's not the case here. If Intel can increase their clocks within the same power envelope then they should.
Lack of AV1 decoding is a downside. It's not clear yet whether it will be a major one, but it shows the age of AMD's solution.
dotjaz - Friday, February 5, 2021 - link
That's called competition, honey. Don't have to beat it.Spunjji - Thursday, January 28, 2021 - link
You could have read the review to see that's not true. Xe routinely loses to Vega 8 in actual games, albeit not by a significant margin.Tams80 - Monday, February 1, 2021 - link
Xe does beat it, no doubt. But it's still pretty close and for integrated graphics Vega is good enough for another year.As mentioned in the article, they probably used Vega again mainly to ensure a quick release.