Intel's Tremont Slide Deck

Beyond The Core, Conclusions
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  • vladx - Friday, October 25, 2019 - link

    Obviously Intel waited until it was left with no choice.
  • Ratman6161 - Friday, October 25, 2019 - link

    "Did Atom processors ever stop sucking?"
    Actually I don't believe they ever started sucking. As with many things, once OEM's decided they were for cheap systems, they built systems where everything else was cheap too. Atom was never designed for high performance and when you combined it in a laptop where everything in it was the cheapest the manufacturer could get...you got crap. I think within its niche it wasn't really half bad.

    I've Got an Asus Zenbook S8 with an Atom Z3580 running Android 6 and it was actually pretty fast for an Android tablet of its day. It competed well with Samsung's tablets at that time and was a fraction of the cost ($249 on Amazon back then). I still use it and its still more than adequate for web surfing, email, Netflix, Amazon Prime video etc. Keep Atom where it belongs and don't set unreasonably high expectations for it and it doesn't suck.
  • mode_13h - Saturday, October 26, 2019 - link

    I dunno... did x86 processors ever stop sucking?

    They do deliver good perf/W - better than Intel's big cores, but still not as good as ARM.
  • Korguz - Sunday, October 27, 2019 - link

    " if they are not as good as arm " how so ??
  • Namisecond - Friday, November 1, 2019 - link

    Not as good perf/W but we are comparing ARM to x86 here.
  • olde94 - Saturday, October 26, 2019 - link

    that widely depends on your application. as far as i understand atoms are widely used in servers due to their power consumption, low heat output and focus on CPU performance compared to other mainstream cpu's. so yeah for some applications atoms are quite ok.
  • olde94 - Saturday, October 26, 2019 - link

    a system like this https://www.supermicro.com/products/system/3U/5039... is a single server rack with a total of 192 cores at less than 400W. and while it's atom cores i would like to have you realize that they run at 2.1ghz, wheres a system like a Gold CPU 6148 x2 is a 40 core @2.4ghz at above 300w. so while the xeon has better IPC we are talking about a 40c vs 192c system at a comparable power budget runing a frequency that is similar. so the xean need more then 4x better IPC to win here. once again there are a lot of features the atom does not support and the IPC surely is different, but atom is not "just" bad
  • Calista - Sunday, October 27, 2019 - link

    Atom have come a really long way from its earliest versions. Try using something like a N270 and compare it to an X5-E8000. The former will be completely unusable, the later not really zippy but more than fast enough for most common workloads except gaming.
  • yeeeeman - Sunday, March 15, 2020 - link

    Silvermont based tablets that sold at 100 bucks were amazing value for money.
    You should stop sucking whatever you are sucking, because atom was quite good after silvermont launched.
  • ternnence - Thursday, October 24, 2019 - link

    The two ALUs have one focused on fused additions (FADD), while the other focuses on fused multiplication and division (FMUL).

    fadd != fused add, fadd = float point add

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