System Results (15W)

When testing a laptop system, there are various angles to consider on how to test: either user experience benchmarks, that are mostly single threaded and give a good boost to how systems implement a deal of turbo, or sustained benchmarks that test how the system performs when you push it. Intel has gone out of its way to emphasise the former for the next generation of mobile CPUs: they would prefer that reviewers stick to very user experience-like tests, rather than say, rendering programs. The problem there is that outside a number of canned benchmarks, it can be difficult. Users, and especially creators, that typically spend a lot on a premium device, might actually be doing sustained benchmarks.

Given the time that we had to test, we were actually limited in what we could arrange.

Application Loading (GIMP 2.10.4)

3DPM v2.1 (non-AVX)

3DPM v2.1 (AVX2 / AVX-512)

On AVX-512, the Ice Lake part destroys the competition.

Blender 2.79b (cpu-bmw27)

POV-Ray 3.7.1

CineBench R20 ST

CineBench R20 MT

7-zip 1805 Combined

WinRAR 5.60b3

AES Throughput (minus AES instructions)

These last two tests are typically our more memory sensitive tests, and the LPDDR4X-3733 really does win out over the LPDDR3-2133 in the other systems.

Power Results (15W and 25W) Synthetic and Legacy Results (15W)
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  • Rookierookie - Thursday, August 1, 2019 - link

    Other reports have indicated that Ice Lake graphics actually beats Vega, so...
  • psychobriggsy - Thursday, August 1, 2019 - link

    Except you've been able to get Zen APUs for a long time, and this isn't out yet. For all we know, Zen 2 APU will arrive in a similar timeframe. But it is good that it is competitive.
  • Phynaz - Thursday, August 1, 2019 - link

    AMD laptop parts have always been garbage
  • Fulljack - Thursday, August 1, 2019 - link

    they're now in the same ballpark with integrated vega graphics.

    still, looking at oem, they'll probably add mx250 or gtx 1650 max-q.
  • StormyParis - Thursday, August 1, 2019 - link

    They'll be, in 6 months, assuming this demo unit can be produced at scale, priced competitively, and AMD doesn' t improve in the mean time.
    I understand why Anand did this review, and I enjoyed it, but it is really about Intel making vague promises in the hope we don't all buy AMD stuff for our 2-3-4-5 yearly upgrade in the next 6 months. And then we'll do it anyway ;-p
  • Fulljack - Sunday, August 4, 2019 - link

    sadly, oem doesn't push amd based laptop as much as intel based laptop.

    just recently we've got ryzen 3000 (zen+) laptop, despite it's released early this year. it only improve performance over previous generation by ~10%, but it greatly improves battery life though.
  • GNUminex_l_cowsay - Thursday, August 1, 2019 - link

    For once the Civ VI graphics benchmark actually tells us something useful; but would it kill you guys give turn time numbers?
  • Ian Cutress - Thursday, August 1, 2019 - link

    Didn't have time, we're we're running to the edge with the game numbers.
  • zealvix - Thursday, August 1, 2019 - link

    Any news/dates for the desktop releases?

    And graphics seem only abit better than the iris plus 655 in my NUC, but a large part of that is from the increased bandwidth as well.
    Any news of a 2 tflop or at least 1.7+ tflop variant of the graphics to match the best from ryzen mobile?
  • psychobriggsy - Thursday, August 1, 2019 - link

    That would require Intel to design a SKU with 96EUs at least.

    That doesn't exist, and likely won't on 14/10nm.

    AMD is likely months away from 7nm Zen 2 APU with over 2 TFLOPS, assuming memory bandwidth to feed it (I truly hope they have LPDDR4X support for their mobile APUs).

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