Closing Thoughts

All things considered, it’s been a while since we’ve had anything approaching a complete mid-generation refresh from NVIDIA. After doing 2-year cycles with the GeForce 900 and GeForce 10 series, the company could seemingly do it again with the 20/16 series – and certainly, that’s where their GPU development cadence lies. However the launch of AMD’s capable Radeon RX 5700 series of cards, not to mention the slugging sales of the original GeForce 20 series cards, has changed all of this just enough to give NVIDIA a good reason to release a refreshed line of cards. And of the three Super cards, today we’re finally seeing the fastest of them all, the GeForce RTX 2080 Super.

None of the Super cards are meant to dramatically change NVIDIA’s product stack, and for the RTX 2080 Super, this is especially the case. The RTX 2060 Super and RTX 2070 Super are NVIDIA’s answer to the new Radeon cards, so the RTX 2080 Super isn’t strictly necessary. However because NVIDIA used what amounts to a slightly scaled-back RTX 2080 for the new RTX 2070 Super, in the process they made the original RTX 2080 redundant; at $200 cheaper, it’s the clear choice if compared to that original card. Which means that if NVIDIA is going to even offer a card between the RTX 2070 Super and RTX 2080 Ti – and specifically, to keep the $699 price point viable – they needed something at least a bit faster than the RTX 2080. And they’ve delivered just that in the RTX 2080 Super.

To be sure, the RTX 2080 Super is the smallest performance jump of any of the Super cards. While the other cards delivered around 15% better performance per dollar than their vanilla predecessors, the RTX 2080 Super is only about half that, at 8%. Which is enough to be meaningful and enough to justify a new SKU (especially with the hardware changes), but it’s not a card that changes the video card calculus significantly. Instead, it’s exactly what it says on the tin: a slightly faster 2080 delivering a bit more performance (and performance per dollar) than before.

Buried inside of this – and making an otherwise by-the-books launch into something a bit more interesting – is NVIDIA’s choice of VRAM. 16Gbps GDDR6 has been on the development roadmaps for quite some time, and now we finally have a video card using it. Bumping up their memory frequency – even if it’s just to 15.5Gbps – was a good choice to ensure that the card remained well-fed after NVIDIA turned up the clocks on the fully-enabled TU104 GPU.

And looking at the broader picture, this is one of those small but important steps in ensuring that video card performance continues to grow over the coming years. With everyone seemingly done launching cards for now, I’m not sure we’ll see 16Gbps memory show up anywhere else, but it’s a good sign that come 2020, Samsung and the other memory manufacturers will be ready to deliver much-needed higher capacity memory at the same 16Gbps speeds.

Meanwhile, if there is a downside to the RTX 2080 Super from a technical perspective, it’s power consumption. The 250W TDP card actually struggles a bit to chow down on all 250 Watts, so in the real-world the card isn’t always as thirsty as the paper specs say. However it’s still requires more power than the RTX 2080 vanilla, and the increase is more than the associated 8% performance increase. So NVIDIA’s overall power efficiency on this card, while still reasonably good, is lower than other high-end Turing cards.

Performance Summary (4K)
  Price Relative Performance Relative
Perf-Per-Dollar
RTX 2080 Super vs. RTX 2080 $699 +8% +8%
RTX 2080 Super vs. RTX 2070 Super $499 +13% -19%
RTX 2080 Super vs. RTX 2080 Ti $1150 -15% +39%
RTX 2080 Super vs. GTX 1080 $499 +60% +14%
RTX 2080 Super vs. Radeon RX 5700 XT $399 +24% -29%

As for what all of this means for video card buyers then, the situation remains relatively straightforward. AMD’s Radeon VII never really got traction in this space, and the RTX 2080 Super will clear the field. At $699, it’s the best option by far, and as a result it’s really the only option.

Instead, the lingering question is the cards below and above the RTX 2080 Super, namely the RTX 2080 Ti, RTX 2070 Super, and AMD’s Radeon RX 5700 XT. As far as the RTX 2080 Ti is concerned, it’s still a distinctly faster card, delivering around 18% better performance at 4K, and all at the same power consumption, no less. It’s also $450 more expensive, which was hard to justify before the RTX 2080 Super launched, and is even harder to justify post-Super. That card has its place in the world – it is after all the fastest GeForce – but it’s definitely a card you buy only if you can truly part with the money. Otherwise, the RTX 2080 Super is a bit of a spoiler, which its much better performance-per-dollar ratio.

Equally spoiling matters from the other end, however, are the RTX 2070 Super and Radeon RX 5700 XT. These cards are distinctly slower than the RTX 2080 Super – the 2080 leads the 2070 by 14%, for example – but then they’re $200 and $300 cheaper respectively. As a result, while they aren’t in the same performance tier, they offer even better performance for the money than the RTX 2080 Super. Spoilers are always hard to assign an absolute value to, but I will say that the RTX 2080 Super is almost overpowered for 1440p; at least unless you’re using a high refresh rate display.

As for gamers looking for an upgrade, the limited performance bump on the RTX 2080 Super means that things haven’t really changed here. GeForce 10 series owners who are looking to spend no more than they did last time can easily stay put. Meanwhile the original RTX 2080 was already a solid upgrade for the GTX 980 (Ti), and the RTX 2080 Super improves on that a bit. The GTX 980 Ti launched at almost the same price point, and with the RTX 2080 Super offering almost 2x the performance, it fits the usual upgrade cadence well. The same goes for upgrades from AMD’s Radeon Fury cards, for that matter.

Past that, it seems like after two months of tit-for-tat, the video card industry may be ready to take its own summer vacation. AMD has made their big move, and NVIDIA hasn’t announced any more Super cards. I don’t expect that we’re going to be done for the year – there still needs to be lower-end AMD Navi cards at some point – but barring any more surprises, it looks like the high-end of the market has fallen into place for the next several months. It’s still very much NVIDIA’s market, but the fact that we’re even talking about a refreshed RTX 2080 card means that things have changed, and that they’ve changed for the better.

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  • eastcoast_pete - Tuesday, July 23, 2019 - link

    Thanks Ryan! I know this is a bit niche, but could you add a short test and paragraph or so on NVENC performance when you review NVIDIA cards?
  • Ryan Smith - Tuesday, July 23, 2019 - link

    Is there a specific test you'd like to see? NVENC is a fixed function block, so it's not something I normally look at in individual video card reviews.
  • eastcoast_pete - Wednesday, July 24, 2019 - link

    Thanks Ryan, appreciate you considering it! I am particularly interested in NVENC performance in encoding or transcoding to HEVC a 2160p video using ffMPEG with high quality (so, not NVENC default) settings, best at 10bit HDR. The clip currently used for handbrake tests of CPUs might serve for initial testing if it's captured in HDR. For gamers, it might be of interest to test this function to capture 1440p or 1080p gaming using settings appropriate for streaming. I haven't done that myself (yet), but believe some people here might provide suggestions.
  • eastcoast_pete - Wednesday, July 24, 2019 - link

    Forgot: some key questions are what, if any, difference in NVENC performance exists between cards, and (for gaming) , if and how using NVENC affects gaming. I am mostly interested in the first. Thanks!
  • ballsystemlord - Saturday, July 27, 2019 - link

    I've been curious about card encode performance on GPUs using ffmpeg for some time. ffmpeg can also use CUDA and opencl.
  • ballsystemlord - Saturday, July 27, 2019 - link

    If I were testing this I'd go for 10bit for x265 as suggested, but I'd test both the (8 bit) x264 and x265 (HEVC) codecs. The size of the video should be selected to allow many cards to compete. I'm guessing this would be 1440p for x265 and 1080p for x264.
  • GreenReaper - Wednesday, July 24, 2019 - link

    Fixed-function, but is it fixed-speed, or does it vary based on one or other of GPU/memory speed(s)?
  • Rudde - Thursday, July 25, 2019 - link

    Fixed-function logic is basically an asic (applications specific ic). It can only do one task, but it does the task well. It uses die area, and therefore increases manufacturing costs, but it shouldn't affect gpu performance in other tasks.
  • Dark42 - Tuesday, July 23, 2019 - link

    Considering the 99th PCTL fps values at 1440p:
    Tomb Raider: 42, Metro: 35, Division: 43
    I wouldn't necessarily call the 2080 Super overpowered for 1440p.
  • irsmurf - Tuesday, July 23, 2019 - link

    No GTX 1080 TI? 1080 TI / 2080 / 2080 Super / 2080 TI are the only comparisons I wanted to see. I see it's not available in Bench, either. :( Please add it.

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