The Biostar A10N-8800E Motherboard Review: Carrizo in 2019?!
by Dr. Ian Cutress & Gavin Bonshor on August 14, 2019 8:00 AM EST- Posted in
- Motherboards
- CPUs
- AMD
- Biostar
- Mini ITX
- HTPC
- Carrizo
- A10N-8800E
- FX-8800P
- Athlon 200GE
Integrated Graphics Performance
One of the target markets that Biostar is going for with these mobile chips in mini-ITX boards is the low-end desktop gaming market. By using one of AMD's best non-Zen APUs, Featuring 512 SPs of Radeon 'R7' graphics, the SoC boasts more graphics and OpenCL power than any standard Intel CPU at this price range. As with our previous benchmarks, we wanted to pit it against the Athlon 200GE, which would be the APU of choice in this price segment. The Athlon 200GE only has 3 CUs of Vega graphics, but a much stronger CPU (and more power headroom), so this should be interesting.
All our games tested are at our 'IGP' settings, which are around the 720p minimum category, title dependent.
IGP Conclusions
As to be expected, when we are graphically limited, the Carizzo and the Zen APUs are evenly matched. In the case of Final Fantasy, the Carizzo APU outperforms the Zen APU by a comfortable margin (though I wouldn't really say 12 FPS is playable). In the CPU limited test, World of Tanks, the Zen APU takes a large win on average frame rates, but at the 95th percentile the APUs are again, matched.
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YukaKun - Wednesday, August 14, 2019 - link
I'm still using my A8-3850 as my HTPC, so... :shrug:Cheers!
Ro_Ja - Wednesday, August 14, 2019 - link
They could've at least added more USB ports.DanNeely - Wednesday, August 14, 2019 - link
I'm wondering if no more were available. This is a mobile chip, and while I can't find IO specs, 4 each USB2 and USB3 (the other 4 USB are in a pair of headers) along with 2 SATA is about right for a laptop. 4 external 3.0 ports, 2x 2.0 ports for keyboard and touchpad, and 2 more for optional misc internal device connections.eastcoast_pete - Wednesday, August 14, 2019 - link
Wow, there must be a lot of unsold and unused Carrizos in somebody's warehouse!artk2219 - Thursday, August 15, 2019 - link
There are, AMD had TONS of stock left over from carrizo and Llano, to the point where you can still find a lot new old stock Llano chips. We will be seeing these carrizo and honestly even Bristol Ridge parts for years.jamesb2147 - Wednesday, August 14, 2019 - link
Use case: Open source hardware router (with PCIe network card, natch).Fight me.
evernessince - Wednesday, August 14, 2019 - link
Consumes too much power for that. The ARM chips inside many modern routers are far more efficient.RMSZaphod - Friday, September 27, 2019 - link
Sure, for a handful of homebodies surfing the net, gaming etc. If you have a business environment, with layer 7 filtering, a mail server, multiple routed IPSEC VPN nodes, and come under moderate bot attacks (cuz server, road warrior access, etc) Pi's and other ARMs bog down. I've had one come under an attack on a Monday morning when everyone was logging in and checking email, and that morning VPN tunnel traffic burst, over heated and shut down. Until the attack stopped, I couldn't get it to stay up. 90 minutes of unhappy clients isn't worth the delta on sunk costs. Athlon GE setup with dual port intel giga nic are rock solid. Under similar circumstances it barely breaks a sweat, It also sustains bandwidth through the tunnels when the traffic is hundreds of smaller transactions from many users throughout the day(10-15%-basically full line speed), and had some 5-7% lower latency.Point is it depends. For ~$175-200 you've got a 5-8 year lifespan machine that's virtually trouble free. That's $22 to $40 a year, for a very flexible, highly configuarable router/firewall/dns/dhcp/proxy-server/layer7/VPN/Roadwarrior VPN/VLAN device (also compatible with IPSEC VLANs from Cisco, Juniper, Barracuda, Linksys, Netgear, Sonicwall etc/DynDNS compatability, BGP, even email gateway type filtering)
kadoo - Wednesday, August 14, 2019 - link
yes, it's windows 7 time!obama gaming - Wednesday, August 14, 2019 - link
Is the M.2 NVMe or SATA?