Closing Thoughts

Wrapping up our look at what would seem to be the last GeForce desktop video card launch for the time being, the GeForce GTX 1650 caps off the Turing launch cycle in an interesting manner. On the one hand, NVIDIA’s pure technological dominance has never been quite so prominent as it is with the GTX 1650. On the other hand, their outright value of their lead over rival AMD has never been quite so muddled. As I noted earlier in this review, the GTX 1650 is a card that serves many masters, and it serves some better than others.

Overall, NVIDIA is treading in very familiar territory here, thanks to their well-defined product stack. The GTX 1650 is a low-end video card. It’s a low-priced video card. It’s a low-power video card. It’s a video card that no doubt will be filling OEM gaming systems left and right as the stock video card – and it’ll be a card that fills countless older OEM systems that need a pick-me-up that runs under 75W. It fills all of these roles well – as a GTX xx50 card should – but it’s also a card that definitely faces stiffer competition than the other members of the Turing GeForce family.

From a tech perspective then, GTX 1650 and its underlying TU117 GPU are another example of consistent execution on Turing GPU development by NVIDIA. By this point the Turing architecture is a known quantity – faster, more efficient, and packing a number of new graphics features – so for our regular readers who have been with us since the RTX 2080 launch, the GTX 1650 doesn’t get the luxury of delivering any big surprises here. But then “big” is the very opposite of what NVIDIA aimed to do with the GTX 1650; instead this launch is all about bringing the Turing architecture and its benefits down to their smallest GPU and video cards.

By the numbers then, the GeForce GTX 1650’s story is very similar to this year’s other GeForce launches. The $149 card is about 30% faster than its most comparable predecessor, the GTX 1050 Ti, which is just a bit under the generational performance gains we’ve seen from the other Turing cards. Like those other cards the performance gains aren’t nearly large enough to justify replacing an existing GeForce 10 series Pascal card, but it’s a far more enticing upgrade for replacing the GTX 750, GTX 950, and similar cards that are now a couple of generations old. Against the GTX 950 the new GTX 1650 is 63% faster, and compared to the GTX 750 Ti that’s a 111% performance lead.

GeForce: Turing versus Pascal
  List Price
(Turing)
Relative Performance Relative
Price
Relative
Perf-Per-Dollar
RTX 2080 Ti vs GTX 1080 Ti $999 +32% +42% -7%
RTX 2080 vs GTX 1080 $699 +35% +40% -4%
RTX 2070 vs GTX 1070 $499 +35% +32% +2%
RTX 2060 vs GTX 1060 6GB $349 +59% +40% +14%
GTX 1660 Ti vs GTX 1060 6GB $279 +36% +12% +21%
GTX 1660 vs GTX 1060 3GB $219 +28% +10% +16%
GTX 1650 vs GTX 1050 Ti $149 +30% +7% +21%

These performance gains also mean that the GTX 1650 is assuming the mantle as the best sub-75W video card on the market. The 30% performance gain over the previous holder, the GTX 1050 Ti, comes with only the slightest increase in power consumption – and easily staying under the 75W cap – making it the card to get for TDP-constrained systems. And HTPC users will find that it can decode every format thrown at it, from VP9 Profile 2 to all sorts of permutations of HEVC, making it a great candidate for driving the latest generation of HDR TVs. Just don't make plans to do HEVC encoding with the card if you care about bitrate efficiency.

All told, NVIDIA has ruled the roost for a while now in the 75W space, and the GTX 1650 only further widens this gap. NVIDIA cotinues to hold an edge on features, all the while enjoying a staggering 70% performance advantage over AMD’s most comparable 75W Radeon RX 560 cards.

But for everything going for it from a technology perspective, the GTX 1650 does face one big hurdle: AMD’s tenacity and willingness to sell GPUs with a thinner profit margin. While the GTX 1650 handily disposes of the Radeon RX 560, the Radeon RX 570 is another matter. An outright mid-range card that has seen its price knocked down to under $150, the RX 570 brings more of everything to the table. More performance, more memory, more memory bandwidth, more bundled games, and more power consumption. AMD can’t match NVIDIA on features or architectural efficiency at this point, but they can sure undercut NVIDIA’s pricing, and that’s exactly what the company has opted to do.

The end result is that while the GTX 1650 is easily the best sub-75W card on the market, it’s a whole different game once power consumption (and power efficiency) go out the window. On a pure performance basis AMD’s petite Polaris card offers around 11% better performance than the GTX 1650, and if you’re buying a video card in this price range, then that’s more than enough of a difference to take notice. The GTX 1650 may be technologically superior here, but if all you’re after is the best performance for the price then the decision is an easy one to make, and AMD is happy to win on sheer brute force.

It’s an unusual way to cap off the GeForce Turing launch, to say the least: NVIDIA, as it turns out, is both at its most and least competitive at the very bottom of its product stack. But with that said, NVIDIA could always cut the price of the GTX 1650 to be more in line with its performance – essentially spoiling AMD’s RX 570 on price. However, given the GTX 1650’s other strengths – not to mention NVIDIA’s significant OEM and branding advantages – I seriously doubt that NVIDIA has much incentive to do that. Instead it looks like NVIDIA is content to let AMD swing the RX 570 around, at least for now. However it bears noting that the GTX 1650 is not a fully-enabled TU117 card, and while I don’t expect a theoretical GTX 1650 Ti any time soon, at some point NVIDIA is going to roll that out and rebalance the market once more.

Last but not least, let’s shift gears and talk about the specific GTX 1650 we reviewed today, Zotac’s GAMING GeForce GTX 1650 OC. Zotac’s sole GTX 1650 card, the GAMING OC is competing in a market full of GTX 1650 cards from other board partners, and yet amongst all of those cards it’s arguably one of the purest GTX 1650 cards on the market. Despite NVIDIA’s intentions for the GTX 1650, most of their board partners went and built factory overclocked cards that blow right past the GTX 1650’s reference TDP of 75W, negating several of the GTX 1650’s advantages. Zotac’s GAMING GeForce GTX 1650 OC, by comparison, is a true 75W card, putting it in rare company as one of the only GTX 1650 cards that can actually be installed in virtually any system and powered entirely by the PCIe slot.

The end result is that, even with the extremely mild factory overclock, Zotac’s GAMING OC card is a solid baseline GTX 1650 card. The compact card doesn’t require an external PCIe power plug, and as a result can be dropped in almost any system. And at 5.54” long, it’s also among the shortest GTX 1650 cards on the market, letting it easily squeeze into smaller systems, including Mini-ITX machines.

In fact the only real drawback I can come up with for the card is its noise; while by no means loud, we have seen and tested other similar double-slot/single-fan cards before that are quieter. So while it’s still a solid choice for small systems, it’s not going to be an entirely silent card in the process. But if nothing else, this leaves Zotac with some room for a fully passive GTX 1650, which, I suspect, is something that would be particularly well-received in the HTPC market.

 
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  • Gigaplex - Sunday, May 5, 2019 - link

    I spend more than that on lunch most days.
  • Yojimbo - Sunday, May 5, 2019 - link

    "I spend more than that on lunch most days."

    Economics is hard.
  • gglaw - Sunday, May 5, 2019 - link

    At least you went through and acknowledge how horribly wrong the math was so the entire initial premise is flawed. The $12.50 per year is also very high case scenario that would rarely fit a hardcore gamer who cares about TINY amounts of power savings. This is assuming 3 hours per day, 7 days a week never missing a day of gaming and that every single minute of this computer time is running the GPU at 100%. Even if you twist every number to match your claims it just doesn't pan out - period. The video cards being compared are not $25 difference. Energy conservative adults who care that much about every penny they spend on electricity don't game hardcore 21 hours a week. If you use realistic numbers of 2-3h game time 5 times a week and the fact that the GPU's are not constantly at 100% load and say a more realistic number like 75% of max power usage on average - this results in a value much below the $25 (which again is only half the price difference of the GPU's you're comparing). Using these more realistic numbers it's closer to $8 per year energy cost difference to own a superior card that results in better gaming quality for over a thousand hours. If saving $8 is that big a deal to you to have a lower gaming experience, then you're not really a gamer and probably don't care what card you're running. Just run a 2400G on 720p and low settings and call it a day. Playing the math game with blatantly wrong numbers doesn't validate the value of this card.
  • zodiacfml - Saturday, May 4, 2019 - link

    Right. My calculation is a bit higher with $ 0.12 per KWh but playing at 8 hours day, 365 days.
    I will take the rx570 and undervolt to reduce the consumption.
  • Yojimbo - Saturday, May 4, 2019 - link

    Yes good idea. The you can get the performance of the 1650 for just a few more watts than the 1650.
  • eddieobscurant - Sunday, May 5, 2019 - link

    No, it doesn't. It's about 25 dollars over a 2 year period , if you play for 8 hours/day, every day for 2 years. If you're gaming less , or just browsing the difference is way smaller.
  • spdragoo - Monday, May 6, 2019 - link

    Per my last bill, I pay $0.0769USD per kWh. So, spending $50USD means I've used 650.195056 kWh, or 650,195.056 Wh. Comparing the power usage at full, it looks like on average you save maybe 80W using the GTX 1650 vs. the RX 570 (75W at full power, 86W at idle, so call it 80W average). That means it takes me (650195.056 Wh / 80W) = 8,127.4382 hours of gaming to have "saved" that much power. In a 2-year period, assuming the average 365.25 days per year & 24 hours per day, there's a maximum available of 17,532 hours. The ratio, then, of the time needed to spend gaming vs. total elapsed time in order to "save" that much power is (8127.4382 / 17352) = 46.838625%...which equates to an average 11.24127 hours (call it 11 hours 15 minutes) of gaming ***per day***. Now, ***MAYBE*** if I a) didn't have to work (or the equivalent, i.e. school) Monday through Friday, b) didn't have some minimum time to be social (i.e. spending time with my spouse), c) didn't have to also take care of chores & errands (mowing the lawn, cleaning the house, grocery shopping, etc.), & d) take the time for other things that also interest me besides PC gaming (reading books, watching movies & TV shows, taking vacations, going to Origins & comic book conventions, etc.), & e) I have someone providing me a roof to live under/food to eat/money to spend on said games & PC, I ****MIGHT**** be able to handle that kind of gaming schedule...but I not only doubt that would happen, but I would probably get very bored & sick of gaming (PC or otherwise) in short order.

    Even someone who's more of an avid gamer & averages 4 hours of gaming per day, assuming their cost for electricity is the same as mine, will need to wait ***five to six years*** before they can say they saved $50USD on their electrical bill (or the cost of a single AAA game). But let's be honest; even avid gamers of that level are probably not going to be satisfied with a GTX 1650's performance (or even an RX 570's); they're going to want a 1070/1080/1080TI/2060/2070/2080 or similar GPU (depending on their other system specs). Or, the machine rocking the GTX 1650 is their ***secondary*** gaming PC...& since even that is going to set them back a few hundred dollars to build, I seriously doubt they're going to quibble about saving maybe $1 a month on their electrical bill.
  • Foeketijn - Tuesday, May 7, 2019 - link

    You need to game on average 4 hour per day to reach the 50 euro in two years.
    If gaming is that important to you, you might want to look at another video card.
  • Hixbot - Tuesday, May 7, 2019 - link

    I think performance per watt is an important metric to consider, not because of money saved on electricity but because of less heat dumped into my case.
  • nathanddrews - Friday, May 3, 2019 - link

    Yeah, sure seems like it. RX570s have been pretty regularly $120 (4GB) to $150 (8GB) for the last five months. I'm guessing we'll see a 1650SE with 3GB for $109 soon enough (but it won't be labeled as such)...

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