Total War: Warhammer II (DX11)

Last in our 2018 game suite is Total War: Warhammer II, built on the same engine of Total War: Warhammer. While there is a more recent Total War title, Total War Saga: Thrones of Britannia, that game was built on the 32-bit version of the engine. The first TW: Warhammer was a DX11 game was to some extent developed with DX12 in mind, with preview builds showcasing DX12 performance. In Warhammer II, the matter, however, appears to have been dropped, with DX12 mode still marked as beta, but also featuring performance regression for both vendors.

It's unfortunate because Creative Assembly themselves have acknowledged the CPU-bound nature of their games, and with re-use of game engines as spin-offs, DX12 optimization would have continued to provide benefits, especially if the future of graphics in RTS-type games will lean towards low-level APIs.

There are now three benchmarks with varying graphics and processor loads; we've opted for the Battle benchmark, which appears to be the most graphics-bound.

Total War: Warhammer II - 3840x2160 - Ultra Quality

Total War: Warhammer II - 2560x1440 - Ultra Quality

Total War: Warhammer II - 1920x1080- Ultra Quality

Wrapping things up for games is Total War: Warhammer II, and this title is one that is less than ideal for the matchup between the Radeon VII and its competitors. Much like GTA V, the card is able to make substantial improvements over its predecessor; at 4K, this is an astounding 47% increase over the RX Vega 64. Nevertheless, given the starting point of the RX Vega 64, the Radeon VII is still somewhere around 15% behind the reference RTX 2080, meaning that it performs a shade faster than the reference RTX 2070 at 4K/1440p. That's not where the Radeon VII ideally wants to be, despite being respectable way to iterate on the RX Vega 64.

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  • Manch - Monday, February 11, 2019 - link

    My bad on Wolf. I thought it was. It's on XB1 which is DX12 and DX12 supt was confirmed by a few places so I didn't check further.

    As for Vulkan Games, off the top of my head(whats in my library), TWS:ToB, TW: Warhammer II (should have been in my table..oops), Warhamer 40K DoW III, Serious SAM VR games, x-plane. I'm sure there are others. Easy to look up.

    IMO FPS should not be the definitive test for all API's. Variety is always nice.

    Cherry pick my mistakes but my point stands. I get the test bed needs to be locked down so consistent results can be achieved. Anandtech needs to be able to give specific measurable and repeatable results and they do that. I'm just merely expressed my desire to see a more balanced test suite in regards to APIs & games that are design for NVidia or AMD GPU's.
  • eddman - Tuesday, February 12, 2019 - link

    Are you basing that on personal experience or simply getting the info from vulkan's wikipedia page, without checking the platform column?

    TWS:ToB, TW: Warhammer II and Warhamer 40K DoW III use vulkan only on linux.

    Despite the vulkan addition, Serious sam games are old, non-demanding and not suitable for benchmarking.

    X-plane does not support vulkan yet; it's a work-in-progress. Still, even if it does add it eventually, it too is not suitable for benchmarking.
  • Ryan Smith - Thursday, February 7, 2019 - link

    The benchmark suite gets updated on a roughly yearly basis. It was last updated for the Turing launch, so we're only about 5 months into it. As part of ensuring we cover a reasonable selection of genres, these were the best games available in the fall of 2018.

    The next time we update it will presumably be for AMD's Navi launch, assuming that still happens in 2019. Though it's never too early to suggest what games you'd like to see.
  • eva02langley - Thursday, February 7, 2019 - link

    Devil May Cry, Resident Evil, Anthem, metro Exodus, The Division 2, Rage 2, Mortal Kombat 11
  • krazyfrog - Sunday, February 10, 2019 - link

    Half-Life 3
  • SeannyB - Thursday, February 7, 2019 - link

    I would like to see a title from each of the general purpose engines, namely UE4 and Unity.
  • Korguz - Thursday, February 7, 2019 - link

    maybe i am the only one here.. but the games AT tests... i dont play ANY of them :-)
  • Ryan Smith - Thursday, February 7, 2019 - link

    Out of curiosity, what do you play?
  • Korguz - Friday, February 8, 2019 - link

    WOW, Starcraft 2 Diablo 3 and some older games... games that dont really " need " a card like this.. my current asus strix 1060, plays these just fine at almost max eye candy... the only game i can think of that i have, and play that might need this card.. is Supreme commander, but im not sure if that game needs a strong cpu, or gpu, maybe a bit of both...
  • Holliday75 - Friday, February 8, 2019 - link

    Love me some Supreme Commander. Solid followup to Total Annihilation. As to its performance I think its more CPU based and quite frankly the engine is not optimized for modern hardware.

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