Because everyone is already playing Anthem at 4k 60fps with a $400 card? Ray tracing is totally useless and we need way more rasterization performance per dollar than we have right now. Give me a 7nm 2080 ti without the RT cores for $699 and then we'll talk.
Fair, the main objective of gaming GPU are shaders per $. Gameworks gimmick are not something I call a selling factor... and Nvidia is forced to cook their books because of it.
Man, I've never seen such a hostile response to an Anandtech article. People need to relax, it's just a videocard.
I don't see this as a win for AMD. Using HBM2 the card is expensive to produce, so they don't have a lot of freedom to discount it. Without a hefty discount, it's louder, hotter, and slower than a 2080 at the same price. And of course no ray-tracing, which may or may not matter, but I'd rather have it just in case.
For OpenCL work it's a very attractive option, but again, that's a loser for AMD because they ALREADY sold this card as a workstation product for a lot more money. Now it's discounted to compete with the 2080, meaning less revenue for AMD.
Even once the drivers are fixed, I don't see this going anywhere. It's another Vega64.
There's still a lot of people for whom a Radeon Instinct was just never going to happen, INCLUDING people who might have a workstation where they write code that will mostly run on servers, and it means you can run/test your code on your workstation with a fairly predictable mapping to final server performance.
As Nate said in the review, it's also very attractive to academics, which benefits AMD in the long run if say, a bunch of professors and grad students learn to write ML/CL on Radeon before say, starting or joining companies.
Yes, it's attractive to anyone who values OpenCL performance. They're getting workstation-class hardware on the cheap. But that does devalue AMD's workstation productline.
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Alistair - Thursday, February 7, 2019 - link
Because everyone is already playing Anthem at 4k 60fps with a $400 card? Ray tracing is totally useless and we need way more rasterization performance per dollar than we have right now. Give me a 7nm 2080 ti without the RT cores for $699 and then we'll talk.eva02langley - Friday, February 8, 2019 - link
Fair, the main objective of gaming GPU are shaders per $. Gameworks gimmick are not something I call a selling factor... and Nvidia is forced to cook their books because of it.RSAUser - Thursday, February 7, 2019 - link
Why are you adding the Final Fantasy benchmark when it has known bias issues?Zizy - Thursday, February 7, 2019 - link
Eh, 2080 is slightly better for games and costs the same, while unfortunately MATLAB supports just CUDA so I can't even play with compute.Hul8 - Thursday, February 7, 2019 - link
On page 19, the "Load GPU Temperatur - FurMark" graph is duplicated.Ryan Smith - Thursday, February 7, 2019 - link
Thanks. The FurMark power graph has been put back where it belongs.schizoide - Thursday, February 7, 2019 - link
Man, I've never seen such a hostile response to an Anandtech article. People need to relax, it's just a videocard.I don't see this as a win for AMD. Using HBM2 the card is expensive to produce, so they don't have a lot of freedom to discount it. Without a hefty discount, it's louder, hotter, and slower than a 2080 at the same price. And of course no ray-tracing, which may or may not matter, but I'd rather have it just in case.
For OpenCL work it's a very attractive option, but again, that's a loser for AMD because they ALREADY sold this card as a workstation product for a lot more money. Now it's discounted to compete with the 2080, meaning less revenue for AMD.
Even once the drivers are fixed, I don't see this going anywhere. It's another Vega64.
sing_electric - Thursday, February 7, 2019 - link
There's still a lot of people for whom a Radeon Instinct was just never going to happen, INCLUDING people who might have a workstation where they write code that will mostly run on servers, and it means you can run/test your code on your workstation with a fairly predictable mapping to final server performance.As Nate said in the review, it's also very attractive to academics, which benefits AMD in the long run if say, a bunch of professors and grad students learn to write ML/CL on Radeon before say, starting or joining companies.
schizoide - Thursday, February 7, 2019 - link
Yes, it's attractive to anyone who values OpenCL performance. They're getting workstation-class hardware on the cheap. But that does devalue AMD's workstation productline.Manch - Thursday, February 7, 2019 - link
Not really. The instinct cards are still more performant. They tend to be bought by businesses where time/perf is more important than price/perf.